Former Ford Engineer here - I just bought a brand new Honda Civic and it’s an incredible car!
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EAT THE RICH
News flash…no one cares what pos you drive because they are all poss…that’s pos plural
I bought a new 2008 Honda Fit for my kid graduating from college because it was the best vehicle for a good price. It’s been driven across the country five times and is still in use by a different family member. Only regular maintenance expenses. Excellent starter vehicle, of which Ford has none. Three family members purchased new Hondas because of the great experience.
I own a 2017 Civic and My brother owns a 2017 Focus. Guess which one has been more reliable? The Focus is rusting through in the rear trunk already and has been overall a fairly unreliable car unfortunately.
I knew that 40 years ago!!
That's what happens when you live in the Ford bubble and think your sh#t doesn't stink.
CEO Alan Mulally was the only one that tried to fix the arrogant Ford engineering thinking.
Mine has over 200,000 miles on it and the powertrain still runs like new. Quiet as a sewing machine.
@1cnh+1p23Q2k8 - I can't argue with your statement.
Go talk to the car rental companies that rent cars to people that have their car getting fixed in dealerships. the difference is shocking. So many American cars need to be fixed so soon compared to Hondas and Toyotas.
I used to work for Ford, but I never owned a Ford. No one in my family or friend wanted to buy a Ford because of recalls, quality, and unattractive vehicle.
I worked hard for my money, so I spent my $ on good quality vehicles that will last for 15 to 20 years. My 2007 Acura MDX is running like a brand new car. My son's Toyota Camry has 195k mikes and runs like a new car, my Mazda 6 has 158k mile. All three vehicle only been to the dealership one time.
My coworker bought Ford vehicles and he told me all of the problems he has been dealing with. This is why many people don't buy a Ford.
SIRPd last year and I've vowed to cost Ford more than what they cost me. So far we purchased a new Chevy truck and my daughter is getting a Buick tomorrow. I figure over the next 20 years there will be at least three more new non-Ford vehicles in my immediate family, and I've persuaded several people to buy non-Ford when they asked for a PIN. I am a new brand ambassador for anyone but Ford. Any other ideas how to cost Ford money? Legally of course. I took the lump sum, so living a long time to cost them pension money isn't going to help.
@ gop+1p23Q2k8. - You’re right! I was looking at A/Z plan price and was like wow. No real discount.
@OP: how was your experience with the dealer? Did you get a good price?
With the new UAW contract, I will most likely not be able to afford a Ford and it is way overpriced.
Yep. Hey, buy the competition's vehicles, and maybe even find a way to go work for the competition if you get "whacked" from Ford.
I rented a Honda crossover when I went on vacation this year; I was pretty impressed considering that rentals are usually very basic.
Current ford engineer here - I haven’t driven a Ford or UAW vehicle in 15 plus years. News flash….you can buy whatever you want. America is free.
LOL, if someone really works for Ford, look at the vehicle fleet,
even Peugeot is in the system!
I want a basic vehicle with wind up windows, am radio, and a heater. Nothing else. But nobody builds it. Keep all the gadgets, syncs, software, and other nannies.
Really? You were an engineer that had to purchase a Honda to find out its better quality than a Ford? Ford doesn't really compete with Honda, and the evidence is in the Ford Benchmarking Center. Tesla? Yep. Chevrolet? Yep. Ram? Yep. Toyota? Yep. Anything Chinese BEV? Yep. Honda. Nope, not really. Only 2 over the past 4 years. Honda has rarely ever been recognized by Ford as being cutting edge, newest, latest, or greatest at anything, but they've always had consistent, pretty good quality.
Based on these posts it appears that Ford is doing everything they can to increase vehicle sales for their competitors.
I kind of feel relieved not working for Ford anymore. Now I can buy a vehicle from someone else. A-plan discount is a joke now. I know TONS of Ford people that retired that found out they can buy a vehicle from someone else, cheaper than what the A-plan/Z-plan discount offers on a Ford. Can guarantee my next vehicle wont be a Ford.
@OP I Just bought a new Honda
WTFGAS
I’m doing research to decide which vehicle I’ll get when my Ford Edge lease ends. It gives me all sorts of issues, mostly with the Sync software. The radio controls and presets stopped working, can’t use navigation because it stops working mid trip (which is bad when you’re using it to get someplace new), and the voice command button doesn’t work half the time. The next available service appointment is two months out. Luckily I can still drive the car because that kind of customer service would require you to rent a car while waiting for repairs. The Sync in my friend’s Escape was having similar issues and after waiting almost two months for an appointment they kept the car for an additional week. Ford treats us like we have no other options. Unfortunately for them we do have options and once someone quits a brand because of quality they rarely return.
I sold my Escape which was a terrible POS and used the money towards a new Subaru.
I had been planning on buying a Bronco before I got canned. Now I’m looking at a Jeep.
Definitely won’t buy a Ford.
Going for kia
I am selling all my big three automobiles (including historical ones) and my daily is a Toyota Solara (I even bought all the identical stickers on the previous LeSabre). Summer car is a Packard and Miata.
Congratulations! My son just needed a new car and ended up buying a Chevy and he loves it. Sadly Ford no longer offers anything a younger person can afford. Doesn’t Ford realize that most young people, and many adults for that matter, cannot afford a vehicle the costs north of $70,000. Ford has forgotten that young people buy vehicles and, assuming it’s a positive experience, develop brand loyalty and upgrade their vehicles within the same brand. The combination of a lack of entry level vehicles with the poor quality of the vehicles they do offer gives me concern about Ford’s long term viability.