We've lost several people to PIPs that made no sense and we had to take over their work. Then a few more people left because of being overworked and the rest of us had to take over their work as well. We went from being overworked to not being able to do half of the things we're supposed to get done no matter how hard we try. We're getting radio silence on when we'll get some help. Most of us are about ready to walk. The new EM is a fu--ing joke.
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It would be awesome if the US Government put Sanctions on India for something like buying so much Russian discount oil or selling US technology to China etc…
I am just a few months away from retirement. It can't come soon enough. My heart hurts for each and everyone of you who feel stuck and have years to go before you can exit this place. We all deserved better but only few were rewarded.
My manager that pushed it initially at our site probably designed all this foolishness. No telling what she’s feeding management.
All of you are so worried about stuff that will not happen for you, anyways. You stay? Well; soon enough it will be a PIP for you one way, or another. EVERYTHING is going to India. The model is to just have management in Houston. That’s it. Run, before the market gets oversaturated with more of….. you. The place is done… .
@2uoz Not sure where you are, but O&G recruiters in the Houston area don’t bother talking to anyone with less than 15yrs exp.
I think what you mean is that companies don’t want to pay appropriately for the level of experience they’re recruiting for. Most of the hiring is contract/temp too. Not a lot of direct hire positions out there.
Whenever any of you are “about to collapse” refer to your job description. Do exactly what it says and not an inch more.
This BS that companies are doing where they refuse to hire, jack up prices, and dump the extra work on their employees will only stop when we all stop giving them more than what they pay for.
Do not worry. Soon, the Dunbury jobs will be available so you’ll have options.
The combined company will be smaller than EM before that acquisition, though.
lol.
The squeeze never ends.
It is not that easy for people with over 20 yoe to find jobs
From someone who left at 55, and has been employed elsewhere for two years, do what is best for you, your health and your family. I invested significantly into the 401k, rolled pension and have a slightly lower salary, but check is more without all the “retirement planning, United way, etc” withdrawals.
Life is much more relaxed and enjoyable. Annual raise and bonus with no PDS, PADP, Career Connect, Knowledgeable Others and the rest of the BS.
@1myc Nobody is trolling.
If you’ve trapped yourself financially that’s your issue to resolve.
For those who aren’t trapped financially, seeking employment elsewhere is the easiest solution to most of the problems posted here. I have no idea what is so upsetting or controversial about that, or how saying so approaches any reasonable definition of “trolling”.
My vote for best thread ever right here.
I can appreciate those who have to stick around as the best choice for their families. I was there.
It stinks to have to stay in this toxic environment and to take the disrespect and lack of appreciation that comes later in the career.
All the best to you.
@1dti You are trolling but for the sake of people who come to this site for information, I will respond to your “what’s the plan question”. Somewhere in your early/mid 40s, all ordinary employees have their potential reevaluated as part of the ranking process and it is either set to 36 indicating you are on the track to move up to low level executive or it is dropped to 29 indicating you are on track to be a permanent staff guy. So the “plan” for those who understand the system is to make a decision at that time on what’s best for their family. If you stay, you get a soul crushing workload, open disrespect from management and younger employees alike, raises they are always just slightly less than inflation, and token RSUs that are nothing like what you got mid career. It su-ks, but for most people it’s the best choice for their family’s future and they must get their head around their new lot in life. If you can’t get your head around it, the only remaining plan of action is to accept the big pension reduction and leave immediately; do not stick around any longer than it takes to find a new job. Do not fool yourself into thinking you will recover. It’s not you, it’s the system. It’s an f’d up system for most of us, but either way there is dignity in making the choice that is best for your family.
@1nij The only trap is the one within your own mind.
And the pension you extol does you little good if your mental and physical health have been destroyed. What’s the plan? Retire a broken man?
The problem with the incessant posting on stop whining and find another job is that anyone over age 40 is caught in the pension trap. Maybe there is some confusion here on what happens when you leave with 15 years service but before age 55? If you do so, you still get your pension earned, but it doesn’t start until age 65. So you lose many years of pension and at age 40 you would have 25 years of inflation loss since the salary basis stops growing. For typical US employee who would have finished their career as a CL 28/29, leaving early is going to cost your family about a million dollars.
Many people here are in a bad situation but have to tough it out for a decade or more for the sake of their families.
Is this Baytown Chem plant?
Do more with less until the wheels fall off. That's the XOM way.
Are you doing Agile? Meetings and Meetings with no end result? Then hand work to the MSP so they mess it up more???
Have any of you thought about seeking other employment?
I realize the standard response is to downvote this every time it’s mentioned, but it really is the solution to most of the problems posted here.
Alternatively, you can remain where you are and continue complaining. Life is short. Choose wisely.
Right before COVID, they eliminated 3 roles that I backfilled. Then came another role that required me to burn candles on both ends. It was always do more and more. Supervisors were the worst because they have no comprehension of the work. I was completely burned out. I resigned and it was the BEST thing I ever did for myself.
The strategy has always been to squeeze more out of the people who do the work to show efficiency gained. Or shift work to low cost countries… while losing efficiency. It’s very very easy to show results by cutting people and budget. But how many were actually successful in growing with the same headcount. Not many I bet. They keep piling on more management types to oversee the work of the few.
Feel your pain, no one left in Clinton to do anything…
@egd+1pGOrimo This is exactly it. The 'care' lip service, sorry behavior, only applied in the depths of covid. It's every top quintile individual for themselves now...
Sadly, many of you fail to realize that other than quitting, there is no corrective action available. There is no possibility of changing groups or finding a sympathetic ear that has any authority to change the situation. This is Exxon Mobil these days.
What appears to be a snowballing sequence of demise is very likely a planned degradation.
If there is no way for you to rescue your group, jump ship to another group or company.
If jumping is impossible, raise alarms now, well ahead of next ranking cycle, such that you cannot easily be blamed. Your Supervisor likely already implementing a plan to blame everything on you and PIP you to save herself.
OP, this is the typical strategy. Your team's been setup for failure by HR and management. In the next performance assessment cycle they'll say that your performance needs improvement because you couldn't do the work of twenty people. So, you'll be NSIed and then fired. You've been marked for termination already. Please, take care of your yourself and your family and find another job pronto. You've been warned.
BTC to the rescue.
Likely a planned failure to justify BTC allocation of your work.