Thread regarding Ford layoffs

1eoo+1pQOODd8 What makes you think you’re entitled to a job at all?

@OP. I'll tell you why your approach, even if it is as effective as you say it is, doesn't get followers or copycats. Because it means to be always on guard, a constant fight, and most people prefer to move on than spend that much time and effort in keeping a sh---y job.

The end result is not you keeping your job, but you going to war every day, stressing about your job, dealing with people you don't like, worried about recording enough for a lawsuit. You are not getting a paycheck out of this, you are getting physically sick. You are trading your health in this war, and you'll end with an ulcer, a heart attack, an stroke, or whatever since who knows how your body copes with the stress.

Even if you are a fighter, even if you enjoy the thrill of will and intelect battling, you'll probably end bitter and alone. People will avoid you just in case, especially if you come at them bitter or already upset.

Again, that it is not worthy for most people, and they have many reasons why besides the ones I stated here. Maybe instead of telling your coworkers why you do that, you should listen why they don't do it. Keep asking them. I am sure they have many good reasons and won't tell those to you, neither that they might think you are insane, because of their good manners.

Let's be clear about one thing. I am not bashing you. I was you, and still are in someway. I would fight for anything and everything. I was lucky things never got out of hand, but I realize now how close they went. I am sure you are not getting promoted with that attitude, still stuck in the same place. I know because I look back and I see all the lost opportunities. Luckily I had help and I learned better. Hopefully, you will too.

"If you were smart, you would have kept your cards hidden, happily welcomed a layoff, and sued. "

I did this before and settled. Not a bad result but still not enough deterrence to prevent violations. So I adjusted my approach. Suing after lay-off gives you far less leverage, because the employment is over. It is far more interesting to sue while working there and see how people change.

I had excellent supervisors but he quit with 2/3 of the team. The current one is a yes man with low skills (he serves as puppet and gloves so nothing bad comes to the higher-up) and the higher up just looked for scapegoat. I tried to move out but he blocked it. He threatened to fire me (he needed me, so it was a way for me to obey) so I sued all of them: higher up manager, HRs, himself.

Once the timeline gets clearer, I will sue the higher up for libel, discrimination and conspiracy so they can tell their stories out loud in the legal system for a better clarification.

I did everything in my power and authority to meet the goals, but when the goals are unrealistic, or it needs something beyond my power, I point out. When higher-ups don't like to hear about them, they retaliate. Then I sue, it is very simple.

Good managers will find ethical solutions, bad managers find scapegoats or unethical patch-ups. I sue the bad managers

@1lgi+1pQOODd8 you sound entitled, as if people with higher career positions than yourself didn't put in the effort to earn those positions.

their job is to make sure goals are met so that the company makes money and everyone stays employed. if you are impeding those goals, you don't deserve your job or any of the income that comes with it, and both of those things should be given to someone else.

I like it...you have to look out for yourself or the rug gets pulled out from under you. Eff the man. Eat the rich. Wfh.

How many people who have been solid workers have been let go in lieu of this guy? Why would you persist for any length of time working for an organization that makes you feel compelled to engage in such legal wrangling? It sounds miserable. If you were smart, you would have kept your cards hidden, happily welcomed a layoff, and sued. Instead, you continue to work for an organization and leaders that you have disdain for, and no doubt have disdain for you. Brilliant.

Given the constant lay-offs in all of big three, how can you not to worry too much?!

Isn't this an excellent idea to gain more leverage? and don't they deserve all this?

You sound like a real treat to be around. Maybe stop worrying so much and just do your work. Probably a foreign concept to your type.

@ajd+1pQOODd8

I never strike first. When I sensed something was going wrong, I had exhausted all persuasions to the supervisors and HRs and I clearly stated certain actions might be highly unwise and it would be better for everyone. No one took my seriously for two months,

They started the disputes, and now they don't get to say how it is going to end. (they realized by this point also)

If you worked for me, I would go out of my way (within the rules of course) to make your life miserable. Its people like you who make supervisor's lives more difficult than they have to be.

Write a book!

Your approach teeters on insanity.

Lighten up, Francis!

English Please

we-ponization of disability entitlements is exactly why public disability entitlements should be eradicated and managed by private firms.

this is coming, btw. and you can thank the boomers who spent decades scamming the system.

Also I asked my lawyers about it

Both said, my approach is too extreme. But since it works out so far, one lawyer said, what a remarkable job! (even though she said, it is kind of extreme and crazy )

I wonder, if everyone is like me, does this mean either we can live together with the company, or sink together? Isn't this a good plan?