Thread regarding Ford layoffs

Ford is still trying to figure out how to build EV. No one wants to buy Ford EV and that is why dealership are piled up with Ford EVs. Ford is shutting down battery plants and scaling back EV production. Losing $50k for every EV that Ford is trying to make is a money losing business. Maybe in another 5 years Ford will be able to make what Tesla was making in 2015.

@1geb+1pXDzv5x what are you even talking about? Ford’s EV goals are being dictated by the white house, not the market.

You want Ford to get government funding to pay for this useless endeavor? Fine, but have fun paying for it yourself through inflation while the market for EV’s makes no movement whatsoever.

This is a lose-lose situation for both Ford and the consumer, and overreach by a government hellbent on looking good for their private interest groups over in Davos. Nothing more.

"Ford needs to start standing up to the government with this nonsense. producing EV's should be a voluntary decision based on market demand, of which there is very little. All this does is waste company money, time, and resources. "

Give me a break.........How much funding is coming from the Government to Ford?

Elon actually said in an interview that this was sent out because he was sick of the delays. He obviously knows suppliers have to fall in line for this t happen. Which is why he's sourcing his own for that. Make sense? All he's really doing is pointing out that they have been talking about it for years...he's not saying "look how smart we are.." he's saying talk is cheap..well in this case...it's insanely expensive and will bankrupt the big 3 if they don;t get off their duffs and execute. That's essentially what he's been doing for years. Although he might have slightly different motives for taunting the industry - he did open source his patents a while back...but OEMs still sat around took them in, and did basically nothing to get ahead of the curve.

@loi+1pXDzv5x and @ugq+1pXDzv5x

I understand both points of view. Here is the thing: working for Musk is perfect for young people, with little personal/family responsibilities, so they can dedicate themselves to their own career development. When I was younger, I used to work many hours, and dedicate even afterwork hours to my professional development. That allowed me to command better technical positions, and better salaries.

Now that I am older, I have family responsibilities, so I cannot just dedicate too much time for my personal development, even when I am interested in doing so. Instead, part of my time is dedicated to my wife, children, parents, inlaws, and increasingly, to family health issues. I would love working for Musk, but I cannot do it because family comes first. I miss the learning curve, the excitement of the challenges, the rush of success and the feeling of accomplishment.

Ford allows for flexible working hours (good for Dr. appointments), decent salary (enough to sustain my lifestyle), but no challenges. They rely more on established processes (yes, I created documentation and processes too, but technical) than anything else. Most of the time at work is meetings, paperwork or mundane tasks, instead of raising the bar at the company. The little learning I do is for myself, since I am still curious, and trying to keep my skills updated.

I wouldn’t want to work for Musk. I’m sure he is very interesting. I simply wouldn’t want to live my life like he does, example: on the factory floor.

Who here thinks msn knows what they're talking about anyway. Maybe Ford and GM know stuff Elon doesn't. Just maybe Tesla isn't the best thing since sliced bread. What credibility does a reporter at msn have? Looks like nudging to me.

It's in Tesla's best interest to build volume, it's hard to convince mining companies (which Tesla needs to do) without getting a buddy to up the demand to justify the mining adventures. Meh, the public has made it pretty obvious what they want. If these things get forced and they end up blazing something important, nobody will allow you to park the thing anywhere near their property. Maybe in time this technology can be useful. Politicians and investors have the cart in front of the horse which never works well.

I’d rather be working for Musk than Farley.

Ford needs to start standing up to the government with this nonsense. producing EV's should be a voluntary decision based on market demand, of which there is very little. All this does is waste company money, time, and resources.