If Ford wants people to come back into the office so bad, pay them a little more than the WFH employees. Incentive is everything! Not rocket science Fartley!
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Maybe Ford should set the office temperature at 60 degrees for the winter, and 80 for the summer. How much money would that save the company ?
Newsflash! Anyone working from home probably doesn’t care about “bigger raises and bonuses” that they MIGHT get by instead working in the office. WFH employees are living their best life. They don’t care about the extra 0.5% raise and extra 10% bonus that is being given to someone else because that is just a drop in the bucket when compared to annual salary.
Hey, that’s a great idea for a new company : Rent-A-Gen’r
Mr manager...if you want rto get us our own offices/cubicles with high walls and not these open floor plans. Do you have an office and not open floor plan? Also coffee is bad...get us comp coffee which is good and pop as not all like coffee. Use your authority to get your workers conducive working environment instead of being a puppet to what ford land decides to deliver as the working environment.
Speaking as a manager, I can tell you that I'm in the office and gave bigger raises and bonuses to those who came into the office last year. It will take a couple more years, but we are slowly separating the compensation between the 2. Those in the office are more productive, end of story.
It's pretty simple actually -
If MSU wins we can all go into the office 3 days a week - no problem
If U of M wins remain fully remote for eternity.....
What are you smoking?
just do not put wfh on resume unless they specifically ask for it else you could be thought of as a dud. the longer dates draw attention. if truly only 1 or 2 weeks no one should flag or shred ones app.
A true fact many are not aware of. Yep, the easy wfhome can ditch your chances to move to another company in later years.
From H.R. perspective work from home past on resume gets the dump no matter the ed./skill. Reason working with others in a cohesive work group produces no individuality. Poor toxic work attitudes are developed at home. New H.R. cares more about workers who can get along with each other than their formal education as kindness and compassion to work hard are not taught but come naturally to the nontoxic. Anything lacking skill wise can be gained with on the job training and is worth the effort to invest in good retainable employees.
one thing i dont get, if so many people are working from home, why is there so much angry traffic in the detroit suburbs. the percentage of people working from home must be low, if you consider all jobs.
I am perfectly fine working from home, and I earn more money this way and doing less work.
Those that come into the office will get paid more, since those that refuse won't get paid at all. If you are so talented that you can write your own ticket, you would have left by now anyway.
No one's stopping you from getting a WFH job of your own.
But that Cr--s-in-a-Barrel mentality will get you nowhere.
Spot on! It's why none of them can offer empirical data supporting RTO mandates.
You sound just like my LL5. King of his little fiefdom. My department is losing talent left and right. Must be a worker level problem, Ford management is perfect.
I just think Doug Field was right he said WFH is not the better solution for the company. It was in a Town Hall a while back. Studies and experts have proven this is the case. Having the team all together in the same office maximizes team collaboration. This then improves the company bottom line.
@1yhd There are savings on both sides of WFH. The employee saves on gas/maintenance and Ford saves by not having to maintain/heat/furnish as many work stations. I also find that I work my hours while at home as evening traffic is no longer a consideration. Compensation should not be higher or lower than position dependent positions as both sides are getting benefits.
The childcare portion is not accurate though. If you think someone can be productive with a toddler running around you have never had kids lol.
Some teams definitely need to be in the office bit others spend most of their days on WebEx with SA or Mexico engineers, plant personnel, or suppliers. So, there is no collaboration in the office. On the contrary, time spent driving to and from work could be better spent working from home
Retired last November 2022 (32 years) to get the big lump sum, but thoroughly enjoyed the relationships and friendships that could only be developed by working together in the office. The furniture in our building was always a generation behind, but the people in my building from my immediate work group and other work groups made Ford a great office setting to work in When COVID hit, WFH seemed right, but this is not the case anymore. I saw a big drop in new people development during COVID WFH, with 2 new people entering the department and seem to be on the outside of real team which was apparent in our weekly team staff meetings. I can only hope that the new people hired in have an opportunity to build real relationships in an office setting like I had. I still keep in contact with my ex-coworkers on a regular basis.
Technically if you work from home, you should be paid a little less. You basically already have a heck of a savings by not having to drive to work everyday (gas and car maintenance), time spent driving to and from, and if you have young kids you wouldn't have to necessarily worry about baby sitting costs. Why would you get paid more to literally do the same thing the rest of us are doing by going into the office everyday, something you were already doing before the pandemic? 🤣
@1ois Plenty of job openings for positions that offer WFH. You chose to continue working in a place dependent position so please spare us the guilt trip.
Snooze havnt rented since I left this dumpster ford. Make more now than my LL3 did at ford and oh me gee I’m only 30 years old… learn an actual skill that isn’t power point or asking your reports how to save a pdf
@1ois - spare us the story about how you stared down the Jabbberwocky risky life and limb. The risks of coof were highly overblown, we're all at more risk of dying in a vehicle wreck. People trying to work two jobs during the same hours on the clock is nothing new, plenty of stories predating 2019 about it around here. There was a big fiasco of one a decade, maybe 15, years ago of some contractors running a biz during the day right from their Ford desks and then doing enough Ford work at night to keep from being booted for non-performance. Please don't paint everyone who would rather WFH with the same brush. Personally I'm pretty offended by not just by no longer having any cube walls, but not even having a consistent place to sit in the office every day.
@1rkt+1pbDvl7H,
I would appreciate some help from a Gen-Renter such as yourself... Are Boomers the ones always going into the office complaining about WFH, or the lazy WFHers that don't do anything? Thanks 😊
Why do some of you feel entitled to work from home? How about this, if you want to work from home, we cut your pay 20%. Some of us never had that luxury working from home since the start of COVID and have been paid the same and received the same bonus as the rest of you. We’ve been supporting most of your lazy as--s while we risked our health. I see most of you on these boards bragging that you’re working from home, working 2 jobs at the same time and claiming that you are effective. Bull sh-t. Our recent launches prove otherwise. Those of us that have been going in day in, day out have had it with the rest of you.
Watch out tough guy over here. Go back to sitting on your thumbs and taking credit for the work your GSRs do. Wouldn’t be surprised if you’re one of the ll6s with constant turnover
The reason for RTO is Ford Land. They own and operate the buildings. If they sit empty, they are just tax and maintenance expenses. If populated, they earn concessions.
Coffee is already free by the Tech Lounge in WHQ.
I not going Mr manager
Cmon people, can you at least coffee badge for the team ?
Productivity just decreased 50%
Senior executives of most companies form conclusions based on cursory observations, not hard data. Therefore they require all of us back in the office because if the parking lot is full of cars and they can see butts in seats then all employees are working hard, being productive and life is good. The reasons they have to stop WFH are as simple as that! This simplistic way of thinking is why so many companies are in trouble. CEO's and senior executives and nothing more than obscenely well paid politicians who are great at giving feel good speeches to convince investors to buy the stock. I don't think many of them know the first thing about basic business. WFH is done, they will see to it.
As a manager at Ford, if I tell you to be in the office to support our business then you better be there. Otherwise, resign and go find another job somewhere else.