Is solid and will progress. If you missed Doug Field's spot during the Global Town Hall, you need to watch it. The Model e and Ford+ transformation away from quality issue ridden ICE legacy vehicles to simplified BEV will move to the next level. I was pleased that leadership is not backing down.
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How Farley is still CEO and the Ford family hasn't booted Botox Bill (again!) is beyond me.
OP...have seat for a second and let us explain spmething to you. Ford ICE isn't having quality issues because it's legacy or because it's ICE. It's because leadership hasn't made quality a priority. That same leadership is in charge of Model e as well. Think this through before you drink cool-aid again. Still with me? Hope so..now take a look at Tesla. Continues to hand other OEMs thier rear with innovative "everything", even in a market where demand is higher for what Ford, GM, ect sells majority of (ICE). SO Tesla isn't even competing in what they are good at - and what makes the legacy OEMs thier money.
Current leadership at any of the big 3 OEMs won't...save...anyone. They don't have the kind of aspirations, motivations, and perspective that Musk has. Period. Am I dogging on them for not being Musk? Well...yeah
- they just aren't as good as he is. What else is there to say? Practical analysis wins. He's winning...they are not. They are getting paid handsomely to lose by the way.
The current way forward clearly isn't working. The projected way forward...at least to me...clearly won't work because it's more of what hasn't worked already. Questions, concerns, comments....just stay put and wait to see...your answers will be forthcoming with a bankruptcy, partial buyout, or both. Don't forget the handsome severance and continued use if company jets...ect...when the court jesters hit the eject button.
Yes they are on target….on target to bankruptcy with EVs…
Just love these pro-DF posts that are posted regularly on here lol. I think this one has received a record number of down-votes. Congrats, OP! Keep trolling!
Yep, all of the upstream stuff is not scalable. We've got lots of copper but hey, it's 1% pure on average world wide. So every ton of the stuff mined, crushed, refined and smelted gets you 20lbs. Lithium, cobalt, niobium all similar - lots of it, the question for the promoters don't want to address is - what's the purity? Saying batteries will bridge us to green or oil independence is a farce with just a little bit of homework. But hey, there's a LOT of investment money being poured into this scam. Meanwhile there's a lot of folks who depend on this industry both on the manufacturing side and on the mobility side.
I was talking to someone on the electrical infrastructure side. He said the grid is not designed to handle EVs. No big surprise there, but he pointed out some specifics. One was the grid can only handle around 3 EVs per 'neighborhood'. He used some terminology to denote a group of houses that I can't remember. There are also issues with the transformers. They are designed to last 30 years and they 'rest' at night when the demand is lower. With the EVs charging mostly at night, the updated transformer life estimate is 3 years. He says no one is looking at the big picture because it is too hard to solve working together. They are just looking at their own business. So the EV manufacturers don't care that the grid isn't set up to handle this.
Tesla made EVs cool. Ford made EVs tedious. Tesla made the smart decision to own their own charging network. Ford tried to partner with inferior companies. Tesla made software core to their EVs. Ford tried to retrofit ICE vehicle architecture as EVs. Tesla designed, developed, built, and updated all of the components in their EVs. Ford used a myriad of inferior suppliers to do all of that
The result, Tesla continues to lead in EVs. Ford continues to sell in small volumes and at massive losses.
The Ford + plan and BEV strategy is a failure.
EV’s = increased cost, risk & liability for anyone who drives, stores, transports or handles them in any way. Towing companies, fire companies, ship transport etc. Thermal cameras and special storage units are necessary for monitoring and isolation. Homeowner insurance will rise from added risk with charging stations.
Right. They projected we would build 600k EV units this year and we are at 60k. Just an order of magnitude off. If not announced already, EV program cancellations coming. GM also wisely just delayed their BEV truck.
OP may be sarcastic, but many true believers have been hired in to Ford. At the top of the list of this is WCF, of course. We also have hired a generation of engineers whose education has been deficient, and can't execute a trade off study. They have been told that EVs are the solution to climate change, so they must be the solution. Design of a vehicle to meet consumer's needs escapes them. They should stick to video games, or online food ordering systems.
OP has been pulling your chain. Sarcasm. high negative counts
OP+1pmasdd5 you need to do Stand up comedy. Talk about not understanding your customer.
- Range anxiety.
- Cost
- charge times
- infrastructure
- my favorite - A home updates to to charge this vehicle. Yeah you sort of missed that one
Lots of people inside the company over the past six years have mentioned or brought these issues numerous times. But no people like this OP totally clueless as to why they are not accepted right now.
Talk about a business plan. $38k loss per unit. HOW DID THAT SLIP THROUGH THE CRACKS? Were people held accountable? How is it a newly hired executive is here less than a year.. Took out her for experience from her link page. I wander why?
so before you toss stones .. better check your glass house
OP: LOL. I like your sarcasm.
Without government mandates and incentives, the EV market for the masses is non-existent.
At some point, when people face material losses for these woke wet dreams, these governments will be thrown out. And with them will go the EV market.
My local dealer has 111 Ford BEV vehicles on the lot and cant give them away. The cheapest, stripped down POS is over 49k and that doesnt include the charger that you have to buy. Nobody wants these damn things! The OP doesnt realize it, but they are part of the problem.
What strain are you Model E folks smoking?
EVs will not solve Ford quality issues, since Ford has plenty of non powertrain related issues. DF and his sycophants like OP have no answers. The sooner they are gone, the better.
So, you are claiming the “solid” plan was to sell only 82,000 BEVs YTD and lose $3,131,000 doing so? Losing $38,000 per vehicle sold doesn’t seem like a sustainable strategy. We used to cancel vehicles that sold such low volumes.
If it wasn’t for the ICE F-150 revenue and profits your Model e paychecks would bounce.
Model-e needs to be held accountable for threatening the future of FMC and their employees. The good people of Ford have paid a high price for this gross miscalculation and blind allegiance to this failed ideology. Let's call out some names of those virtue-signaling egoists so the new counter-cancel crowd can know who threatens our country and livelihoods. This needs to be fixed now. Even the lapdog journalists are questioning the viability of government EV forced-compliance. What say you Billy? Blame it on red states? Guess who buys all the trucks whose profits line your pockets?
This is pure comedy gold!!🤣🤣
Every EV program is delayed or about to be cancelled. Bloated costs and bloated incompetent leadership. Too much bureaucracy, poor engineering. Rudderless. It was never the right path.