Is this normal here?
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I'd love to have that. My LL6 is a complete micromanaging control freak.
We called our CAD supervisor "Casper the ghost" because he was never around. He spent his days counting the days until he could retire. He could care less about the company, and even less about those who reported to him.
Do you need someone to hold your hand? There were times that I would go weeks and weeks without talking to my LL6 and he was just 3 aisles away. We'd pass each other in the hallways, greet one another and move on. He was like that to everyone in the group and we all liked it that way.
Most LL are acting busy and don't have time for their employees. They don't contribute much to the company, but they are busy looking for ways to get more credits. They have their employees submitting the accomplishments and LL would tell upper management that "I did it". What a sad culture working for such a company. I left the company and the grass is much greener on the other side.
Your manager has written you off as useless so he/she won’t interact with you. You are up on the next layoff list. I would use this time to find a job outside of Ford. It’s easier to get hired while still employed.
This has not been the norm ever in my career. We all work together in our group. Time to return to office.
No worries
Your supervisor didnt talk to his for months
The chain continues
Thats how we get exceptional ford quality as its leadership.
@kud I feel you on the political animals. Seems like the last several reorgs have landed me under political animal after political animal
First one was a woman who was super jealous of another woman LL6’s skills. She spent all her time plotting on how to discredit / get the other woman fired. One new guy in a team meeting made the mistake of saying how much the other LL6 knew and had helped him over the years. Holy smokes did things get ugly, yelling and screaming and bad reviews followed
Second one had his nose so far up the LL5’s behind that he would page us in the evening to do things like mow the LL5 yard / drive the LL5’s kids to their soccer practice / do shopping for LL5.
Third one hated the LL5 and had us be on the look out for things he could do to make the LL5 look bad.
Such a sxxxshow
Had all types @ Ford
The micro-manager who logged every bathroom break (and you think I am kidding). The dude even controlled the color of the pens we used while taking personal notes. The game we played was to bring in pens with pink/yellow/purple ink just to mess with him.
The absentee-manager who met with me once and turned all the groups responsibility over to me and then was never to be seen again until the yearly PR and goal setting. The guy is a drunk and we were better off with him spending all his time at the bar.
The incompetent boss that I met with hours each day to explain all of his emails and compose his replies to those above, below and laterally.
And one competent boss that met with me monthly to check in to see if I had any road blocks he could clear for me.
The % of incompetents continues to rise. At least half are incompetent nowadays
solution is simple,
sue the bad manager out. retaliations? keep suing until the problem is solved. get everyone involved and destroy their lives, put them to prison if conspiracy happens. they deserve some lessons taught
if things are good, all those troubles can be skipped
I was lucky, at the beginning. I was interviewed by the team lead and a coworker, fully technical, digging deep in the areas they needed. These guys were nice, competent and motivated.
The manager was not good technically, nor a people's person, nor organized, and depended completely on his team leaders. However, as he told me, his job was to give me the tools I needed to do my job (he approved very quickly any request from the team leaders) and get out of my way. After the first weeks, I only saw him in the departmental meetings. Definitively not a good manager, and I didn't feel like we would stick out for me, but not a bad manager.
I was happy and motivated at work for a few years, until we started a reorg. There I knew what a bad manager was. I got a political animal, ready to crossed me at any moment. I was very stressed out for a long while.
After another reorg, I got a nice manager, but very disorganized. Not good, since we got to do a few things close to the deadlines, due to the lack of organization. When my manager remembered something we had to deliver already or on the next couple of days, it put unnecessary load on the GSRs. He would stick out for us, though.
After the last reorg, I got a competent manager. He is technical, knowledgeable and helpful. I see him once a week, unless there is something big going on. The problem now is that the employees are overworked and with low moral, so it is hard to deliver anything that depends on other teams.
Not normal in areas I have been in. We have at least 1 weekly meeting with our supervisors to communicate status and help needed.
when I was there I didnt speak with my supervisor ever. That was the policy in almost every area I worked in. Sure once in a while I would meet, but that was only one or two supervisors over the years.
A lot of management there I have no clue how they got promoted. Like the poster above said, no people skills, no leadership skills, and little to no knowledge about the area there in charge of. I had a lot of management above me that if I went to them with a technical question, they could not answer it.
I'm so jealous, maybe it's self competence and faith in their employee. Also probably busy with goal / objective setting garbage.
My incompetent LL6 micro manages the entire group like he owns us. Fortunately this drives us to being a team, but the outcome is that we are all disgusted at our jobs, surroundings and do no see any light at the end of the tunnel. - every on is looking to get out.
Amazing how they always place the most useless garbage as management . . . 'Well, they were good at their jobs', but have zero people and leadership skills.
Put a broom in my hand, I would rather sweep the parking lot with an inspirational leader, than work for some Napoleon complex clown promoted somehow on this 5-question joke as a situational interview.
Answering some canned 5-question interview with 3 interviewers gets the company just where it is, full of useless leadership who can't lead, think on their own, solve complex issues, inspire their employees and be a proud owner releasing a quality component / system.