Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Things don’t get better

Been at Wells Fargo for almost 4 years now. Moved departments 10 months ago to a new department thinking that it would get better but my new boss is a super nice but has no idea what is going on and is a lost soul.

She has no idea what her upper management want, has no clue how to run the team and dosent seem to give any direction. I can go on and on about this but I truly believe this is what happens in a large company when there are massive displacements of scale with no direction of the future.

My honest question to the more experienced folks is this - would it make sense to actively start looking for a new role or stay put to show some stability on the resume. I have moved jobs/companies every 3 years and have managed to negotiate a higher salaries every time I move with an expanded job mandate.

I feel that the longer one stays in this environment the more dangerous it can get from a mental and career growth perspective. However all the banks are going through mass cost cuts.

My other option is to just stay put, upskill/polish my resume by doing some certifications/part time masters which will take 2 years and hopefully the economic environment will be better from a job hunting perspective.

Ps- I have about 18 years of work experience and this is by far the worst environment/company I have been in.

I would appreciate any candid honest feedback. Take care !

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Why would anyone want to sell or work for a firm that still has an asset cap, consent decrees, and a union. Why would any person with a moral compass sell for a firm that has damaged so many consumers and have been fined billions of dollars. In a sales environment I want a quality organization, not the stress of knowing many clients are going with my competitors who have no regulatory issues

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Post ID: @1bcz+1qJ4QTIa

Go! They wouldn’t think twice about letting you go!
if you can transfer to a new job every few years to get your salary where you want it go for it. you won’t get raises here

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Post ID: @1awl+1qJ4QTIa

I’ve been here for over 3 decades. This is the absolute worst bunch of senior managers I have ever seen. The down playing of the survey results is a glaring example of how little they actually care.

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Post ID: @ged+1qJ4QTIa

Been here a lot longer than most. My manager used to be pretty good but the current executive team embodies the old idiom that "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down."

It's Charlie's way or unemployment.

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Post ID: @ubg+1qJ4QTIa

No doubt it's time to move.

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Post ID: @zly+1qJ4QTIa

This post and the replies smells like fake nonsense

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Post ID: @ghb+1qJ4QTIa

I was in a similar situation with similar movement background. But I chose option 3, which on this board will be vilified.

It wasn’t that my manager was lost, but she was overwhelmed and I could see the need for a right hand person/lead/assistant manager, whatever you want to call it. So I inserted myself into that role.

No usurping of authority, just started off handling small tasks outside of my job duties. Then I brought it up to her honestly about what I saw while providing encouragement to leverage the seasoned staff. Create space between low hanging fruit and their work allowing a shift in focus. You manage up. Some managers want to micromanage, others are forced to when their staff can’t/won’t handle the minutia.

I personally have been rewarded well for my efforts. Most will say this place isn’t worth it and you won’t be remunerated for your work. That’s a call you will have to make. But it has worked out great for me both in $, experience and opportunities.

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Post ID: @eyw+1qJ4QTIa

Four years is easily enough time not to be marked as a job hopper. You should be looking now. No doubt about it.

I spent 24 years at WFC and its predecessor orgs (First Union and Wachovia). Got recruited away in December, now in fourth week with new bank and was physically, spiritually and emotionally defeated by the end and knew it was time to go. It’s night and day different for me now.

When I left WFC, I was high enough up on the food chain (call me “higher mid-level”) to have good insight into how the ex-JPM group which runs the company now thinks. You really must understand that they view the employees as the #1 problem right now, PARTICULARLY the “Old Wells” employees who pre-date Charlie.

Putting out the cheapest possible minimally acceptable product is now the goal. 1 for 1 trades of domestic employees for I&P are strongly encouraged. Spending 20% as much on an offshore resource to get 40% as good of a work product is considered a big win by leadership.

Finally, I would strongly disagree with your assertion that all banks are doing mass cost cuts. Sure, no one is spending like drunken sailors right now, but some players are adding selectively. You only need one bank in the end to get out!

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Post ID: @kbx+1qJ4QTIa

Get out. Unless you can wrestle control of the wheel away from this manager, you will be tainted by their failure.

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