While taking to the hiring manager, I stopped to ask the HR women why she was in the phone call since it was only the Honeywell manager and myself talking. I think I upset the HR broad when I asked her why she was in the call further telling her I did not like having to deal with HR types.
I'm not going to sit and wait for a phone call back from the hiring manager or the HR ditz although hiring manager told me based on my experience, I could really help out his group right now.
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This is what companies HW do when partly owned b Blackrock, Vanguard, and Statestreet.
HR = Generally Low end student that barely makes through college. Over the years they hate smart people, so they go into studying human psychology, feeling and more.
Some how they have now created industrial psychology who focus on work force. Thus end up in engineering Companies. But guess what they hate smart people.
So they come to engineering companies for vengeance !!
HR = 25dollar an hour person making decision that impacts millions.
Why are all HR person females, what happened to DEI, why doesn't it work for males
Don't waste your time friend, they're just yanking your chain.
I had a similar thing happen when interviewing internally except it was the hiring managers manager and an HR person who I didn’t know was going to be on the call so I asked about it politely and was told HR was just interested in seeing how the team runs the interview and they just asked me maybe 2 questions in the whole thing
Also happened for my current job that I got, HR was just there and asked like one or two behavioral questions. So it seems pretty normal to me. You being rude is another issue altogether.
HR is trying to determine if you are a diversity candidate or not.
If not then they will torpedo you regardless of what the manager thinks.
Move on and consider yourself lucky.
Interviewed a few years ago and the hiring manager, quite the rising star themselves, did intimate that the culture at HW was "difficult". As I was already working for a huge global corporation that had started to follow the GE playbook, I figured that HW couldn't be any worse. Boy, was I wrong!!! HW took hatred and exploitation of employees to new and unimaginable depths. So glad to be gone...but trying to do good work with no resources or support nearly k1!!ed me while I was there.
Largely a sham and you are being played for a fool; the candidate has already been selected. Wake up and move on.
Man you are interviewing for HR. That’s why
Like the OP. I recently had a Honeywell interview over the phone when some HR women joined the call after I and the hiring manager had been talking for about 20 minutes about the job and what he wanted me to do in his group. Until the HR women joined the call, the job sounded interesting from what the hiring manager told me.
The HR women became very annoying and at this point. I realized I no longer wanted to work at Honeywell. After about five minutes of the HR women's talking non- stop. I deliberately broke wind, with my cellphone close enough for HR women and hiring manger to easily hear it. It sure was a doozy, and I haven't cut one that loud in a while. That muzzled the HR women up because she became speechless, and I think the hiring manager stifled a laugh before becoming quiet. I then said thanks for the interviewing me. They both said their good-byes and so did I. This morning, which is little over a week later, the hiring manager called me back apologizing for the HR women interrupting our conversation about the job when she got on the call and then started talking non-stop. The hiring manager asked me if I was seriously interested in the job in his group and said he thought he could convince his boss to allow him to hire me even though the HR women might try to stop them. After I told the hiring manager, I was still interested in the job in his group, he told me to expect an email with an offer this Wednesday. So I'm going to wait and see what the offer looks like before I make my final decision if I want to work for Honeywell. I don't think HR people should be in phone interviews. Because at this point, they have pre-screened you enough that the hiring manager wants to interview you.
I have taken around 10-12 interviews the last couple years to keep a feel on the market. They have always started with the recruiter that reached out to me to check for interest, some before and some after already showing my resume to the hiring manager. This is where they also confirm what you are looking for.
Next has been the hiring manager.
At this point you usually get another interview with a team if a larger company.
Next comes an email with offer memo, and has always been my first contact with HR.
I agree that if HR is included with the hiring manager interview it is to keep the manager “in-line” regarding company culture. Very sad and a definite red flag for me.
HR does this a lot, not just at Honeywell. Considering you called her a "broad" and you appear to have an extreme narcissistic attitude, you're totally the sort of jacka$$ we don't need and already have too many of.
I’ve never had an interview with a hiring manager and HR present in the same interview. Sure, most interview processes involve talking to HR. But it’s usually a separate interview before you even get to talk to the hiring manager. Once you pass that, you talk to a hiring manager alone, or with members of the team you’ll be working with sans the HR rep.
Based on what you’re saying happened with your interview, you may want to ask yourself why would HR be so excessively involved in the interview process? What does that say about the company? At least those are questions I’d ponder, were it me considering a job at HW and I ran into that.
Ya gotta love this thread.
OP is a s-xist, afraid of HR types and women apparently.
Responses are all over the map- from don't come to Honeywell to hoping he gets the job.
Funny part it that any serious company has HR on any serious interviews.
The whole thing is so ludicrous it's hilarious.
You sound like a s-xual harassment lawsuit waiting to happen. I hope you don't get the job.
HR is on the call to ensure you are a DEI candidate. Otherwise, you don't get an interview.
HR is in interviews because HW is infested with inexperienced managers. My advice? Run, as fast and as far away from HW as you can. You will very much regret taking a job here. Mark my words.
Hope you get the job - you and Honeywell deserve each other.
Garbage and a waste of time. They already know who they are going to hire and are going through the pretense of an open competition. Only the most desperate would work in this hole.
Of course hr is on the call. They need to make sure the mgr doesnt say anything truthful.
You sound like a ja----s, OP. Honeywell dodged the bullet on this one.
Consider that you have dodged a bullet. Even if you got the job, I’d recommend you keep looking, take the paycheck and pray your stint at Honeywell is so short, that you don’t have to put it on your resume.