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This blows. I already go in more than that due to my line of work, not looking forward to the parking, lack of dedicated office, destroyed bathrooms, loud coworkers, etc.
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@4cnb+1qZk1iUP. Probably so. He knows as well as anyone what a failure he and his WFH team has been. By transitioning to the office he and his team may be able to milk a few more years of high salary before moving to some food ordering app like Toast that better uses their talents.
Will DF be reserving a cubicle in Dearborn each day?
It's official! DF wants everyone in the office T-Th starting March 4.
"Decide whether to sell your out of state i.e Florida residence or to end your rental lease there to be ready to move back to Michigan."
No, no...you got this all wrong. If you're out of state it shouldn't even be a choice. Not like it's a FANG company or something. Move out of state to stay employed at Ford? You've really got to be kidding...you have to have no other options and even then...still quite a stretch...likely not even close to worth it unless you're getting high LL5 or an LL4 level salary. There should be no flattery here..this will thin the herd and that's likely exactly what they expect.
Looks like local leaders have finally won. Been berating large companies to bring their employees back into the office since January 2022.
WFH as the norm is about to go the way of the Dodo.
@1xdt+1qZk1iUP - In stating that, you proved your college degree in gender confused studies is worthless.
You need to lean punctuation to write effectively. Begin sentences with a upper case and end sentences with a period. Also, avoid run on sentences. This was probably taught in grade school. You really give yourself away as a Gen Z's.
Plan for the worst and hope for the best. That being said. Decide whether to sell your out of state i.e Florida residence or to end your rental lease there to be ready to move back to Michigan.
Can anyone clarify the verdict for employees that are remote out of Michigan my entire team is spread across the USA please be respectful in responding I’m just asking for clarity on what has already been communicated in that instance for remote workers
What about our team members in lcc? How is in person collaboration with the whole team in Dearborn offices possible? It still is webex in office in Dearborn and in office in Brazil, Mexico, india. Can kumar or jim b. convince us of better collaboration? Tick tick tick tick. I am waiting.
WFH was amazing for me. PD was 90% webex meetings and being located offsite, WFH made sense. However, if your looking to collaborate, train, support etc, in office is the only way to go. If they can end up with at least Friday's WFH, that would be awesome. They shouldnt be having high throttle meetings on Friday anyway.
You should look for an English grammar class you can enroll in down there in Florida.
If we all do not go in they cannot retaliate against all of us. Baumbick did not say how in-person collaboration with or llc team member will accomished. Once they rto in mi then I will decide whether to rto or not.
The email with all the positives of working from the office with none of the negatives was a nice touch. I hope management enjoys a return to 2019 productivity where we had significantly higher headcount.
I'm laughing so hard about March 4th's RTO. Most the Gen Z's in my Ford group that Work From Home are always wearing their pajamas when they turn their cams on during meetings or to talk to coworkers. I can imagine all the panic attacks going through the Gen Z's thin heads right now about no more wearing PJ's all day with March 4th getting closer.
For all that were able to Work, more like play From Home and then decided to pull a sneaky, one by moving out of State, like Florida. What scam did you use to fool your managers or Ford Payroll, so they don't know you don't live in Michigan anymore? Do tell Sneaky ones.
Me thinks all the sneaky Ford out of staters are going to have to move back to good old Michigan sooner rather than later. If the sneaky ones were d-mb enough to sell their Cribs here in Michigan after they moved out of state to places like Florida, those dummies are going to be facing a tough housing market finding a new Crib to buy here in Michigan.
@1ano+1qZk1iUP Chances are those D&Rs were already on another program by the time that one was launching. We have been hit by so many layoffs over here in D&R land that it is constant firefighting and unless you have a stop ship your email goes to the "maybe someday" pile.
So back to pre-covid times. Back to toxic office politics and games. Back to the coffee club people that spent their days randomly going from office to office, building to building visiting. Back to the walking clubs where people spent their days ensuring they got their 10k steps in. Back to the people that arrived at 10am, took lunch at noon, and left at 3pm. Back to the people spending their days working on their side businesses. Yeah, hauling people Back in the office and thinking they are going to participate in your imagination vision of 'happenstance office collaboration" is just that, imaginary. It never existed before, and will never exist except in storybooks. Especially not when senior leaders backstab and abuse their workers with fake down grades. Nope. We just become more disenfranchised, angry, and determined to pay it back.
My guess is that many here are from IT.
From working on a PVT during a major launch while most of you PD people were working from home, I can tell you first hand what was said is true. Working in person, hands on the product is the way to improve quality. Our launch su-ked because we had to fight to get you lazy D&R engineers to see why your design wouldn’t work in production. One PVT engineer developed numerous PowerPoint presentations to D&Rs and PMT leaders on root cause and PCAs only to have the issues binned to MPI because no one wanted to do the leg work on the launch side. Guess what. The customer complained about the same issues the PVT engineer brought up and we now see in warranty and social media posts. Guess what that PVT engineer is now doing. He’s now implementing his proposed changes and quality is starting to improve. So don’t dare tell me all of you are more productive at home sitting on your a$$es.
@krl+1qZk1iUP is right. It will go something like this:
"3 days a week proved to be a success. So we've decided that 5 days a week would be a even bigger success."
Oh no!!! All the side jobs, living out of state, living up North is coming to an end!!!
Leave your blankie at home.
"Experts have proved a company can turn itself around with a proper in-person workforce."
This simply doesn't bear out as you think. What experts? This varies team to team and for some it might actually be a detriment. No blanket statements please. Don't think in absolutes because that's lazy. Please put some real thought behind this before you just gush over every corporate decision that is made (as always).
But yes...if your team determines that it's what they are going to do and you don't agree, deal with it or move on. They might be trying to initiate this anyway so they don't have to tell anyone to leave in a way that will trigger more paperwork then they would like.
Is it up to your ll6 what about remote workers what did your leaders say about that?
Been RTO'ing several weeks now, 3 days a week. Excellent participation, excellent collaboration. That's what it is all about. You will feel better. You will help Ford improve. Do your part. Experts have proved a company can turn itself around with a proper in-person workforce.
Badge swipes are being tracked, but don't think of this as a bad thing, once you start coming in the office, you will enjoy being back.
3 days is juat the begining.
Once 3 days becomes the norm 5 days will be pushed
So find another job if you are so unhappy. Life isn't always fair...
Is it up to your ll6? What is the policy on out of state remote workers?
What org?