Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

My overall observation is that 75-90% of the people I have worked with that

have not gotten laid off or quit have become totally apathetic towards work and the company. Unfortunately I have as well and I don't like the feeling but do have to continue to cash the paycheck and collect the benefits. What I don't understand is if in fact Stankey and Board want a much younger workforce then how do you attract that by having RTO and targeting your more loyal experienced employees? Seems like a recipe for continual turnover and chaos but that has always been the SBC way. Leadership has gone massively downhill and most have little respect for the Senior Executives. They don't lead or produce. They cut and collect.

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Those who remain have been tasked with doing not only their work, but the work of all those who have been laid off. My group spent the last twenty years perfecting the network we manage.

The rewards for that effort were to be given two additional networks and no additional headcount or training to manage it. Basically, tripling the workload.

I'm so done with this company.

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Post ID: @pdck+1qjjkFV4

"75-90% of the people I have worked with at AT&T are slackers and make no significant contributions."

good one - I have seen people work their but off to keep customers just to get laid off while the people who did nothing get promoted.

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Post ID: @8wnz+1qjjkFV4

not a healthy way to live.

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Post ID: @8dbl+1qjjkFV4

I did a year in Dallas. No thanks. I don't think most folks will care for it but good luck to those who move. I'd rather go to Atlanta.

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Post ID: @3ofe+1qjjkFV4

I guess it really depends on what you considered "entitled 75%".

If the company promises something when you start and you trade off other potential job considerations because of that, and then they take it away from you YEARS AFTER the fact, do you really think you are some "entitled" group that should just go away and stop the complaining?

I personally don't care if they say it's no longer sustainable.... then grandfather those in it and let new people decide if they want to accept a job without it. But taking it away after the fact to those who were given it when they started is just wrong.

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Post ID: @3any+1qjjkFV4

Traditional pensions and universal Healthcare? That's not affordable anymore. That time in America's life has passed. Maybe you didn't notice our shrinking military, higher ration of constituents to congressional rep, and devaluation of the dollar to mask national debt. All of these things have happened since 1999.

Why do you think the company keeps pulling in healthy amounts of revenue but has to keep surplussing people? Every dollar is worth less and less now.

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Post ID: @3fiu+1qjjkFV4

"How, where and by whom things are truly getting done. Until then, those who truly have ability will no longer give extra because it’s not appreciated in any way - monetarily, verbally or in review ratings. "

THAT IS SO TRUE. Those that get recognized do nothing special, they just bootlick and in some cases, take credit for what their subordinates do. This defines AT&T.

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Post ID: @3erf+1qjjkFV4

“I wish they would lay off all the lazy entitled 75%. But we can't because the management who would help make this happen is part of the 75%.”
Also that 75% are the ones who lack the skills in the job market so… they are moving to Dallas to be promoted to be the next stink stunk stank.
Way to think it through $T

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Post ID: @3nfz+1qjjkFV4

I couldn't agree more. I'm apathetic because of everything they've taken away from me. Give me the benefits that you promised when I started and I'll be off the payroll and you can say the culture is better if that's somehow what the company things will fix all their issues.

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Post ID: @3gpe+1qjjkFV4

I wish they would lay off all the lazy entitled 75%. But we can't because the management who would help make this happen is part of the 75%. Instead of wasting millions on useless non functional applications we could buy out the seniors who would like to leave and develop the future employees who want to stay. Moral isn't an option anymore since we're surrounded by so many that don't care or feel after a few decades they are entitled to sit around and complain. Perhaps our union can help find a way out of this and why I've paid them dues for decades. Current leadership is all about yes sir yes ma'am to preserve themselves and not rid their groups of unneeded lazy dead weight.

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Post ID: @3ela+1qjjkFV4

Our VP gives Connection Awards on favoritism only. It could never be proven due to how one can have it written up.
He gives credit to one area of the business claiming automation efforts when there real hard working people gaining the efficiency — not system enhancements that are subpar and costing company millions through Accenture.
It will never happen but company needs to avoid VP spins and have a 3rd party evaluate
How, where and by whom things are truly getting done. Until then, those who truly have ability will no longer give extra because it’s not appreciated in any way - monetarily, verbally or in review ratings.
New exec blood needs to take a look and listen.
Reorg VPs who have become complacent and are only out to save their jobs and protect their friends and favorites. SVPs & EVPs — open your eyes — it will help the company.

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Post ID: @2aqb+1qjjkFV4

I’m 61. I would have already left if stankey hadn’t taken away the healthcare that was promised for 34 years of my career. Now I am hoping to make it to Medicare eligibility. I hate this company for taking away everything they can from me just as I was about to need it. Could have grandfathered it but NoOOOO. Take away everything because of the loss due to Stankey & Stephenson absolutely poor decisions!! Only thing the CEO who “knows better than everyone” knows to do is make products and people - employees as well as customers- miserable

I saw what happened to you. I didn't like it. This should be a cautionary tale for anyone working for AT&T. Plan accordingly.

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Post ID: @2iav+1qjjkFV4

I’m 61. I would have already left if stankey hadn’t taken away the healthcare that was promised for 34 years of my career. Now I am hoping to make it to Medicare eligibility. I hate this company for taking away everything they can from me just as I was about to need it. Could have grandfathered it but NoOOOO. Take away everything because of the loss due to Stankey & Stephenson absolutely poor decisions!! Only thing the CEO who “knows better than everyone” knows to do is make products and people - employees as well as customers- miserable

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Post ID: @2mti+1qjjkFV4

@"I see AT&T as nothing more than a tool for retirement."

This is not the same company you started with as the real AT&T ceased to exist nearly 20 years ago with "knockoff" At&t (otherwise known as Southwestern Bell) comedeered real AT&T's corporate name and identity.

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Post ID: @2ayc+1qjjkFV4

"They have your utopian cradle to grave system already in place, China, Russia and Cuba is waiting, they will even assist you in selecting your lifelong career and location."

49 of the top 50 industrialized nations of the world have universal healthcare. It's not a communist plot.

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Post ID: @1uoq+1qjjkFV4

I think your % is low. Older workers now get none of their retirement benefits promised when they started years ago and are hanging out for medicare. Younger workers see where the company is headed and are playing the game until they find something better.

The company likes to talk about "culture" but they created the mess and they think a few power point acronyms will fix it but they only make it worse thinking it's just a bunch of sayings.

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Post ID: @1vqf+1qjjkFV4

I see AT&T as nothing more than a tool for retirement as I have planned accordingly. I did my job, I cannot save this company. When I started the stock price was $55. Everyone I know that used to work here is retired or dead. Stock price $16.55... Who in the he-l did that??
I hear the same tired complaint, budget, budget, budget.
I watch a hundred dollars get thrown away to save 2 dollars. Repeatedly.
Somewhat similar as Stankey, Randell and Ed before us. Wasted money.
Stankey gets his salary for what?? Randell gets his 270K month pension and a ONE MILLIION DOLLAR a year "consulting fee" for f'ing up this company.
I just want to get my little share. I will get my share.

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Post ID: @1omu+1qjjkFV4

“Sadly this is true. I try to do a good job, I really do, but it definitely doesn’t seem to be appreciated. I could save the company tons of money, mind all the costs and when I do, people complain and I get nothing for it.”

I felt this to the bone. No matter how much your manager advocates for you, you really will get no recognition. Not even verbal. You just won’t get it until you leave T.
I left 6 months ago and now I’m MVP at my current employer on track for a promotion already. I know what promotions are but I’m being rewarded handsomely for my efforts.

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Post ID: @1hrl+1qjjkFV4

75-90% of the people I have worked with at AT&T are slackers and make no significant contributions.

I guess that could work at the "management" level, but I assure you if 75-90% of technicians made no significant contributions, not much at all would get done.

Sounds like a lot of fat and I mean a lot of fat can be cut from the "manager" ranks.
Thank you for your admission. This confirms what has been known.

This is why AT&T should be at 100k head count by 05/2024.

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Post ID: @1zbu+1qjjkFV4

75-90% of the people I have worked with at AT&T are slackers and make no significant contributions.

I guess that could work at the "management" level, but I assure you if 75-90% of technicians made no significant contributions, not much at all would get done.

Sounds like a lot of fat and I mean a lot of fat can be cut from the "manager" ranks.
Thank you for your admission. This confirms what has been known.

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Post ID: @1kja+1qjjkFV4
Oh, and speaking of politics, awards, raises, and all that jazz. They should be split equally, don’t you think? 50$ for each employee - cause of budgets and politics

You damn right it should be equal. Why is someone who I don't even speak to claiming a bonus for themselves based on my work? The extent of their leadership is flushing a single tu-d down the pipes, at which point we are the ones who have to self-organize and figure out the implementation. Leadership has virtually zero involvement.

And that begs the question: what would you say... ya do here?

Seriously. What do these people do? I can name a handful of individuals who deserve their titles. Otherwise, god damn... A company can't be lean if there's too much fat in the middle.

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Post ID: @1uqk+1qjjkFV4

75-90% of the people I have worked with at AT&T are slackers and make no significant contributions.

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Post ID: @swc+1qjjkFV4

Well, bless your heart! It seems like you’re feeling mighty frustrated with your job. You’re collecting a paycheck, but it just doesn’t seem to matter anymore. You’re doing your job, but it’s hard to get motivated when you feel like you’re not being valued. And if you think you’re worth more, well, you might just have to find another job. But I reckon that’s easier said than done, isn’t it?

It sounds like the company you work for is having some trouble being lean. Even when you try to save costs, you might get kicked in the behind for trying. That’s just politics, you know. But don’t worry, I’m sure all the f***s under the CEO will resolve the problem eventually in a politically fair way (sc--w costs, that is for employees, not VP's)

But besides all that, it seems like the paycheck you’re getting just isn’t enough. A deep change in the pay structure would be significant. Maybe they could start with a base salary and then add bonus-based rewards. That way, you could get a further enhancement of connection awards by cutting others bonuses, merits and streamlining.

Some awards require a ton of accomplishments for just 100 dollars? Well, I’ll be! That’s funny. To make sense of it all, maybe 10,000 dollars would be more enticing. That way, you’d have some real motivation and competition.

Oh, and speaking of politics, awards, raises, and all that jazz. They should be split equally, don’t you think? 50$ for each employee - cause of budgets and politics

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Post ID: @zyg+1qjjkFV4

Sadly this is true. I try to do a good job, I really do, but it definitely doesn’t seem to be appreciated. I could save the company tons of money, mind all the costs and when I do, people complain and I get nothing for it. No raise no extra bonus no attaboy, nothing. Yet we’re asked to cut costs and save money. Then I see execs and others spending like crazy. Yeah no, this year I said I’m just going to approve whatever comes at me and go on with my life. Heck with trying to save anything.

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Post ID: @rkw+1qjjkFV4

Most of us take as many paid days off as we can get away with and the days we do go to work we just hang out doing the minimal we can get away with without getting fired while we wait to be either laid off or declared surplus so we can get the termination package and go on a "paid vacation" before retiring.

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Post ID: @jrh+1qjjkFV4

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They have your utopian cradle to grave system already in place, China, Russia and Cuba is waiting, they will even assist you in selecting your lifelong career and location.

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Post ID: @oaa+1qjjkFV4

Bring back traditional pensions and have universal healthcare and then you will see people actually retire - Instead we force people to work until they die and we don't give a sh-t about you or your company. down with the next generation all these companies and the Capitalistic US

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