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Reported someone higher than me for s-xual harassment. I have some texts and pictures, some dates. What usually happens? Will I get asked to leave?

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Post ID: @OP+1r0eiZKs

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This is true. HR will look out for the company, by S canning the offender. You think they want to be center stage in the next Gloria alread presser and party to a zillion dollar law suit? Don't think so. If there's pics and texts for evidence, this isn't a "he said / she said" case with no evidence either way, where the company might circle the wagons, it's a legal / PR disaster waiting to happen. "Defending the company" = firing the guy ASAP.

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Post ID: @5yyd+1r0eiZKs

So many uninformed people.

Think about what you are hearing on this board. Do you really believe that a company that puts profit above all else wants to risk a legitimate lawsuit brought against them from you for unlawful termination? Do you think they would want to keep an employee around that is likely to create more major headaches for them by continuing to se-----y harass other employees?

Aside from doing the right thing, the bank has every financial incentive to part ways with the offender. People suggesting otherwise are uninformed and simply have an axe to grind.

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Post ID: @5pbp+1r0eiZKs

If they ask, “What were you wearing?” Get a lawyer

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Post ID: @3jkq+1r0eiZKs

My old manager asked me to plant a seed in her forest? For a long time I thought that was s-xual harassment, as it turns out, she owns land in Northern California and was asking folks to help plant trees.

Another time she asked me to treat her like a lady and push her stool in for her....so I did, I was raised to be a gentlemen.

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Post ID: @3snz+1r0eiZKs

"HR works for the company, not you..." no truer words.

Also, your complaint is not confidential, your manager (and several chains up) plus the alleged harasser probably already been notified. Do not trust HR fully, get representation if you can. Don't sign anything! They have an ARMY of lawyers handling these kind of things, you cannot fight them alone.

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Post ID: @2tqx+1r0eiZKs

If the person you reported on is not an insider, they are highly likely to used your complaint to terminate them without severance. I knew some who had a false report filed on him for a much lesser incident who never got to defend himself and was terminated. The moral of the story is they are trying to dump as many salaries as possible without paying severance. They did not tell this guy what they were investigating nor did he get a chance to defend his actions. His boss tried to defend him but Upper mgmnt wanted the salary off the books in a bad way.

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Post ID: @2rqf+1r0eiZKs

Sounds like you're already doing this, but document EVERYTHING, including dates of reports made to and summaries of meetings with HR. HR works for the company, not you - sometimes it's on the best interest of the company to support the employee, but often times it's not.

Also (very important), file a charge with the EEOC immediately so that it's documented and investigated there too. If you are retaliated against, file another charge with the EEOC to document the retaliation of the first report. Charges with the EEOC don't necessarily have to be taken further if the company does the right thing, but you will need those charges on file if you want to take legal action in the event the company doesn't resolve the problem.

Best of luck!

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Post ID: @2ept+1r0eiZKs

I work in Ent. Inv., very few “Unqualified people” that I know of. Most are former law enforcement or have investigative exp. From other companies. We investigate the cases but it’s up to Employee Relations to do the corrective action. Know what you speak of before opening your mouth with disinformation.

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Post ID: @2anj+1r0eiZKs

The hr teams have unqualified people in the team, who don’t understand how to gather evidence, and believe unless a majority verify what you say, you must be a liar. Many cases deal with managers who harass individual employees, while with others they behave well. Best guidance, if possible, is to document all, leave and then sue the company. Even then nothing may happen, but at least you would have tried..

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Post ID: @2omy+1r0eiZKs

ANyone who believes the non-retaliation policy obviously has never seen what happens when you file a claim. Because HR and ER are there to cover WF not worry about you - you were already guilty and now you are more guilty... Remember at WF:

See something, Say NOTHING
Raise Your Hand (to ask Uncle Chuck what pizza he likes)

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Post ID: @1dpa+1r0eiZKs

Someone in my department recently reported their manager for the same. She wanted it to remain anonymous, but because of that they basically did nothing but inform his manager and asked him to speak with him. They said they couldn’t do much without showing him the proof and getting “his side of the story”. But her name is all over said proof so she didn’t want that.

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Post ID: @1ami+1r0eiZKs

I bet this is just a big misunderstanding

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Post ID: @1mil+1r0eiZKs

You will become the hunted

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Post ID: @1aic+1r0eiZKs

I had a manager ask for s-xual favors for a promotion. Nothing really happened but the whole process was a bit traumatic for me and it was not worth it. I did not affect my career in any way if that makes you feel any better. I would have been more successful if I had been more ready for war but it took so long I got tired of having to keep reliving it.

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Post ID: @oop+1r0eiZKs

There will be no blatant retaliation. You will be “managed out” in a way that shifts all blame onto you and protects the company.

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Post ID: @dbu+1r0eiZKs

HR will not help you. There are still many retaliatory acts being committed by managers and executives, which are being dismissed by HR. Once I reported one incident to Ethics Line. The HR person came back and said the case was dismissed because my abusive manager denied the allegation. I asked him if he read my evidence emails. He said he did not have the time to read my evidences. HR is there to protect the company, not to protect you.

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Post ID: @fct+1r0eiZKs

I would get an attorney because the goal of any firm is self preservation. They will never admit fault and in the you need to protect your own interests. Speak to an attorney asap and do as they say.

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Post ID: @lml+1r0eiZKs

I’m in internal inv. There is a non-retaliation speak up policy, so you will not lose your job. S-xual harassment cases are priorities despite what most people think. Interviews will be conducted and evidence gathered. As with all allegations, some are substantiated while some aren’t. It is a fair process, as I’ve been in this role for 5 years and worked these cases.4

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Post ID: @fpy+1r0eiZKs

You will not be asked to leave. Any hint of retaliation is taken seriously. An investigator will be assigned who will gather evidence and interview all parties and witnesses. They start each interview, including with the person accused, telling them there is a no retaliation policy. I'd expect in this situation the person accused will be interviewed for their side of the story, as unfortunately there are false accusations that happen sometimes. My recent experience is that the investigators are people with law enforcement or government experience, know how to interview and gather evidence. The process can take some time as they are through. I'm sorry this happened to you.

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Post ID: @xcd+1r0eiZKs

You will probably get canned knowing wf.

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Post ID: @jhe+1r0eiZKs

I wish more people should speak up. There should be zero tolerance for abuse of any kind.

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Post ID: @xnt+1r0eiZKs

I miss the 1980s

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Post ID: @frl+1r0eiZKs

Pictures proof all that they will likely be termed but depends on how bad. Worst case final notice

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