Hi fellow Dellionaires,
Heard from a pretty good source that Dell is planning on reducing head count from 134,000 down to 100,000 over the next 2 years.
Also heard that they may be drastically reducing severance packages, or eliminating them all together.
Is there any truth to this rumor? I’m not familiar with layoff laws, ect so wondering if this has merit.
Fire away, comment squad!
"I am sleeping with"
This impish level of middle school humor. Must be a 20+ year Dell dinosaur, nothing left in the tank but juvenile jokes. 20 years wasted, no real skill, just base jokes and sickness. Go touch grass.
Whoever said it's now 1wk per year, that's what it has always been. 2wks + 1wk per year of service
In the US it’s now 1 week pay for each year. Not the standard 2 week pay.
I am sleeping with the daughter of an HR top g-n jet fighter level that it's going to be trimmed down to 2k employees.
Heard from a reliable source that it came straight from HR top dog that future head count is headed toward 80-85K
It will cost them a ton to attract new talent if they pull a stunt like this.
@hch+1r4eFjY1 what org?
In law it's better to have something in writing than nothing in writing.
Sure, but without severance, why would I, the severed employee, sign anything? They give me either 60 days notice or pay because they have to, assuming it's a mass layoff that requires WARN. Without the carrot of that extra severance beyond WARN, I'm not signing jack.
They’d have a class action lawsuit
"what's the point of anything beyond the min legal requirement?"
In law it's better to have something in writing than nothing in writing.
Saw this coming from a mile away last year because of those id--ts who sued for the right to bad mouth their employer, despite signing an agreement. So if a company can't shut you up, what's the point of anything beyond the min legal requirement?
https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/board-rules-that-employers-may-not-offer-severance-agreements-requiring
“Dell is IBM’s twin brother”
Yes. Big, d-mb, slow-moving has-been.
Dell is arguably worse, because IBM never pretended to be a progressive work-from-anywhere company, only to pull them rug from under all the people they lied to.
And at both companies, you’re just a number.
No.
Severance by dell is not out of benevolence. Two months is to cover for WARN act.
The rest is to get you to sign a NDA document and legal disclaimers .
"Keep an eye on what IBM is doing."
Yes because Dell is IBMs twin brother? That's the cornerstone of your argument?
Keep an eye on what IBM is doing. Avoiding layoffs and severance by mandating a self-funded move to an expensive city with downtown offices.
If you refuse, you’re not getting laid off… you’re resigning voluntarily. No severance, no unemployment benefits, no WARN Act.
If I was in the new “remote worker” employee class, I’d be expecting this move next — reclassification to “100% in office” in an expensive market like Round Rock or Hopkinton, where family homes are astronomically expensive, and associated mandatory self-funded relocation.
In such a situation, a refusal would be a rejection of continued employment, not a layoff, and you effectively resigned. Not a penny of severance.
The severance would be the only reason to sign that separation agreement and release. Imagine the lawsuits if those didn't have to be signed
WARN (2 months notice) or pay 2 months would need to happen. I could see them providing a WARN notice to the entire company and then 2 months and a day later, release the 34,000 people on "the list".
That’s a good point, hopefully it’s just a bad rumor/wrong info…
It will top the worst employer list if they remove severance.