Thread regarding Stellantis - Fiat Chrysler Automobiles layoffs

All of you trashing EVs never had one. I've been driving one since 2013 and would never go back. Keep trashing it and keep coming up with excauses to stop the progress, it will never go back and you cannot stop this. All of you are fools eating up what's beeing served to you via mass media during last 6 months, now just watch how easily the same masters of information change narrative once it's benefitial to them. By the way, love my car, it's reliable and tech is amazing... Enjoy stone age...

too bad our government allows foreign ownership the usa is the bi--h of the world.

Bring back jackie washburn he will turn things around.

Only a fool would buy an EV these days. Sad employees' income has been exposed to this nightmare vehicle. No one's heart was in engineering a known political failure and no one's heart will be sad to leave it behind. Fresh new start.

EV's were toiletries from the get go. Now the political mess has taken down some of the best people. Please just let auto makers get back to just producing simply a good product that actually runs and for a fair price.

Expect next round coming within 3 months. What do you expect when DRs, Managers and Directors yearly goals include reducing the employee count 50%? They have every incentive to over achieve the that goal meaning, cut as many and hire somewhere else!

I just cannot say too much otherwise my comments keep getting deleted.

I have two legal cases going on purely by coincidence (Tukhachevsky and Tula) and this just amplified the whole situation. I guess anyone who wants to join me get to have all my existing forms (so you don’t have to find them everywhere again) and relevant shareable information to save the hourly costs on lawyer.

What I want in return is only the situational awareness. The more I know, more powerful I can be. By this time, if you know me, you know who I am. Yes, it’s me again

I’m not signing the agreement, because I have two separate cases going on anyway.

My current codename for this case is Tukhachevsky. Anyone wants to join me, look at my username here,

"Could anyone comment if specifically firing NA employees would constitute discrimination based on region/nationality and could this be challenged in the court of law? And if so, why don't all the fired employees actually do a lawsuit?"

Reading my separation agreement, there is legal jargon in there that says once we sign and agree to the separation agreement and lump sum payout, we are not allowed to bring any lawsuit or participate in any lawsuit against the company.

Which means if anyone wants to sue Stellantis, they will have to reject the involuntary separation package payout and take their chances that they could succeed in a lawsuit. Considering most, if not all, of us do not have money to hire lawyers and bring a lawsuit, let alone wait for however long it would take for the trial and maybe get a payout from the verdict, that's a huge risk to take. Considering winning the lawsuit is not a given.

Could anyone comment if specifically firing NA employees would constitute discrimination based on region/nationality and could this be challenged in the court of law? And if so, why don't all the fired employees actually do a lawsuit?

It is time for someone to start a mass lawsuit including all fired employees from January to March. The companys is intentionally avoiding warner act and firing only those making American salary like dawg they TOOK OUR JAWBS

Hourly se/tpt employees that were terminated from stellantis after the new 2024 contract please sign this Petition. And anybody else that has worked at stellantis can sign this petition as well
It doesn't matter if you were terminated. It doesn't matter if you took the buyout. It doesn't matter if you're retired and it doesn't matter if you still work at stellantis I ask you all to please sign the Petition and spread the word. There was no need for stellantis to fire all the se/tpts And now stellantis is starting to hire new Groups of se/tpts as of 3-19-2024 so please spread the word and ask people you know to sign the Petition. I added the link to the petition at the end of this massage. Thank you🙏🙏

https://uawd.org/no-member-left-behind-stellantis-workers-are-standing-up-for-fired-supplemental-employees/

Not only direct jobs, even contract jobs are meagerly paid through French preferred vendors who have taken business from American staffing companies.if you are not French enough no luck to work in this company which once was a great place to work.Monopoly at its best right now with these French Headquartered Staffing companies.

I am not fresh out of college but I still have a mindset of being 15yo sometimes, and I might look like 20yo (I am adorable too). I can relate to the depressive feelings of those losing the first job out of college, still.

Even though I do not worry about living expenses, (because I have sued and settled enough), nor unemployment insurance process (I just activate the account again, good), I am more annoyed by how many lay-offs like this occurring to me (I got hit by 3 and I dodged another 4) and I am very upset by how this is done. I guess I can spend more time on my side job as an intelligence officer then.

I was reminded by the time when Moskvitch went out of business, all the car bodies were still hanging in the factory, subframe on the line with engines and transmission, then people were gone. Same as when MG Rover went busted, half painted Rover 75 and MG TFs were in the assembly line, and floppy disks were on the ground. Couldn't they wind down the business in a more respectful manner? I guess the same thing happened to us.

In a long term vision, if this is the trajectory, this company will break apart like British Leyland did decades ago. On the first day I was hired, I wasn't all that pleased: all this reminded me of British Leyland!

I’ve been so stressed & feeling depressed since Friday’s termination. No indication whatsoever that our group would potentially get cut. The least they could have done was give us some kind of warning. Now I’m stressing over not only losing income but dealing with the 401k, HSA, Cobra, unemployment agency, finding another job with the fierce competition. I don’t stick out like many others, I only worked in one department. This was my first job out of college. God please help me get through this.

Before I quit in 2019, I saw nothing but unqualified people promoted to positions they didn't know anything about. Talking mgrs, senior, directors. Seemed at the time they made it all female. Then the nepotism came in. Interns only hired from Perdue because a director was alumni. It was the good old boys club.

I see everyone blaming Joe but are we forgetting that the Big3 wanted to take the market share from Tesla? I worked at GM and everyday it was about what Tesla did and is doing. Every graph was comparing to Tesla. Sure, Joe is pushing EVs but the companies want to sell more EVs than Tesla. Except, Tesla has 4 models and Big3 planned for like brand new 20 new models. Sure, “66%” less engineering work but they have 300% increase in work load. GM gave out packages and laid off contractors, but they did not cancel any new programs. Also, the companies are making billions in profits so let’s get real that this is just corporate greed. Can’t take away a few cents from their shareholders. I get calls everyday for Stellanis contractor work from Indian recruiters, which pays entry level salary for someone with 10+ experience. They need engineers but only for a cheaper rate. 80K with no benefits is a great deal for the company compared to the people laid off making 100K+ with benefits.

We made 20B in profit and the sky is falling year after year. See the pattern. Time to starting cutting price on cars in NA that we increased 65 percent, not people.

The French leadership only cares to outsource and thinks Technical expertise is a commodity instead of a resource to be protected and maintained. Anyone laid off in the short term should go apply at FEV or the like since the corp will need to bring those jobs back in as contract. Some of the areas need local people and simply will not function with the # laid off.

So if the rumors are true and these 400 jobs that were cut show up in India as contractors making $9.75 hr then that press release would not be accurate the company told the newspapers.

The push to electrification, with the French at the steering wheel, will be the death of this company. They are getting rid of all the Hemi V8 engines except the 6.4. All these future global platforms will fail. Pedo Joe is mostly to blame thinking auto electrification is an answer to the climate change grift.

""True professionals to send out a company survey due a few days ago and cut heads today! Class act!""

I did not take the f**ing survey and will never do again. I have one goal now, leave this Franch company before they let me go.

I am working on top research project and it will be great if I leave right before the results are due so they paid me 5 years with no results!!! That is the PLAN! hope it works!!!

It's over, Chrysler is DEAD. Via LA France. Don't let the door hit your @$$ on the way out.

Just flat out digested reading this thread and feel for all laid off. Ruthless business practices is the norm here and everywhere. America wake up!!!

• stop blaming Chinese auto threat, this is pure greed! Nobody will buy those tin cans for $19000

Saw someone In here saying EVs take 66% less engineering. They’re crazy! If that’s the case why did they hire close to a thousand engineers to work on the batteries? I work there and was one of them.

They don’t want to employ americans because it’s too expensive? Then DO NOT buy their cars (Jeep, RAM, Chrysler, Dodge, etc) as simple as that!! Let’s see if they can sell those in low cost countries.

Systemic ki-ling of great American brands and great company. Hope this is not true, but it is. I wish Chrysler stands on its own again.

Don't forget to register for the mobility forum Carlos is speaking at: https://www.freedomofmobility.stellantis.com/en/2024-event

It says you can ask the panelists questions. Maybe you all can ask/tell him your thoughts directly. :)

What infuriates me is these execs at the top including CEOs like Mary Bara, Tavares, Farley and their cronies went full steam ahead on the EV hype train and when it backfired as predicted by Toyota CEO, these asswipes are firing ppl to cover their as--s.... such bull fkin sh-t.... especially bi--hes like Tara Vatcher, Sangeeta Theru who don't know any technical stuff and to meet quota keep getting promoted over the likes of super competent ppl

I dodged the bullet as I left the company about a month ago. They have been laying off contractors every year since 2020, and offered packages twice for direct employees (for over 15 years and over 5 years). In addition there has been mass exodus of employees who have been quitting left and right. The entire company is overworked, and there has been almost zero recruiting in North America since Stellantis merger.
It seems like the plan is to move North American operations to Low cost countries with cost cutting being the only strategy.

True professionals to send out a company survey due a few days ago and cut heads today! Class act!

The funny part is they are saying work force reduction. Engineers are already working 50-60 hrs a week with no ot. Now they are getting layed off and replaced by contract workers or their work is being shifted to low cost countries. Fact!

Only one month of severance is being offered for employees with 4 years or under which is 100% fact. 20 year and over employees get 12 months max. What a slap in the face, this isn’t a good package at all. Carlos salary doubled this year yet 400 of us got fired

How Americans allowed this, stop the plants 70% of the revenue is from USA, Americans should control the company, maybe no more ba--s anymore.

Thank You Joe Biden and your EV push. EV’s take 66% less engineering .

Any severance numbers being reported

Well I dodged the bullet on this layoff. Hopefully cutting all these engineers will be enough to enable Carlos Tavares to achieve his $39.5 million compensation again in 2024.

I figure this will go down in history as a worse merger with PSA than with Daimler. We have been very profitable yet we are laying people off? It only makes sense if it is a proactive measure because they KNOW we aren't going to be able to sell all the EV's in the pipeline for a positive profit. Not sure laying off 400 people will even put a dent in that. They keep pushing "DARE Fwd" but nobody is really bought into it. We are Daring to walk the company right back into bankruptcy. We have a big launch year and can't have boots on the ground from BCC countries. This action will cause increased work load on those left and will continue to cause people to leave the company. Which is exactly what they seem to want. American leadership is desperately needed but will be locked out of any key decision making. I didn't get laid off today but am very much looking forward to not working for these id--ts much longer. It makes me quite sad to see how far we have fallen. Best of luck to those on the other side as of today. It can only get better, might not seem like it today.

Sadly it all comes down to numbers. US based employees are expensive. STLA is looking to reduce costs and optimize efficiencies which translates to headcount reduction in high cost locations (US) and backfill in low(er) cost locations. Other companies have done / are doing the same.

From Automotive News:

https://archive.is/cYtQM

"This isn't going to be the last," a person briefed on the matter told Automotive News on Friday. "They are going to be doing this in waves so they can game the WARN Act."
The federal Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act requires 60-day advance public disclosure whenever companies lay off at least 500 employees within a 30-day period.