Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Im getting laid off because i wont relocated to Dallas or ATL, my replacement has been approved for an office with non of my team

My backfill was approved for office locations where none of my team works, and they'll be on teams calls all day long, yet I can't do the same thing from my location. Make it make sense... RTO is asinine.

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Post ID: @OP+1rItcFn3

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You clearly weren’t a top performer in your manager’s mind.

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Post ID: @3wef+1rItcFn3

I mean, if you aren't at least a top performer in your own mind, in who's mind would you be?

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Post ID: @3ftt+1rItcFn3

So many top performers in their own minds.

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Post ID: @3nye+1rItcFn3

what wilk this company do with all these top performers not moving. How funny.....

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Post ID: @3pza+1rItcFn3

It’s weird they’d do this to a top performer. lol

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Post ID: @3onz+1rItcFn3

non-op here. similar situation. org straddles all the major hubs. I don't. No bad reviews. Wife and kids are awash in opportunities, we have a great mortgage rate and home was bought at a great time. I am a high-performer, I love the office I go to and collaborate with great people there. I love my town and community. I have sold almost 500k in referrals here in my area in past years because I spread the good word about the company in this market. I don't want to follow my job with a g-n to my head because that means there is no job security even after I move. Imagine giving up my life to be laid off and find myself stuck? My designated hub community has seen a 57% rise in asking prices for homes the last 5 months. 80% of the surrounding schools in my current area are in the top 5 of the state. The designated hub area has schools that don't crack the top 200 in their state. It makes no sense why a poorly educated community would be exploding on home values unless the area's values were falsely inflated and experiencing a housing bubble. Imagine moving, losing your job, and feeding an impending housing bubble burst?

When I declined the move, my boss and peers looked upon me with great sadness and tell me that I will be picked up in a blink after I'm surplused. I would like to keep working for the company, but this bizarre policy discriminates against my zip code. It seems, that where my butt sits makes more money for shareholders if its in another state with people that take 3 hour daily lunches. People in hub locations in my org have been the ones that have quiet quit, shifting all workloads to non-hub employees. Many of us in non-hubs are proof that we are providing a value, but whatever, if Stankey wants to hang himself, why keep him from the rope?

If the company is making this d-mb of a mistake, they don't deserve me or you. Regardless if you are in a hub or not.

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Post ID: @2ieb+1rItcFn3

Not personal, business is business. If you want to stay employed, you will have to move to Dallas.

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Post ID: @2ocb+1rItcFn3

I'll be honest and real with you OP. This situation doesn't sound fair to you at all, and I feel bad for you. The way the company has been heading has felt wrong to a lot of us with a strong internal sense of justice, and it's why we vent on this board so much.

I hope this all turns out well for you in the end.

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Post ID: @2wuq+1rItcFn3

What dpt are you ?

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Post ID: @1geh+1rItcFn3

U mayd ur choyse n new wut da conzekwenzes wood b.

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Post ID: @1ten+1rItcFn3

OP Here: I wrote it on my phone, thus the typo in the title. I'm 33, have been with AT&T for 12 years, and not in my orgs hub location, but in other orgs hub office location. I declined to move my whole family, my wife with a career and two kids already in school, across the country to a brand city with no one we know. Also, we have a 2.7% mortgage, and it would be easier for me to find a new job than my wife and get two kids back into school.

I have received multiple connections awards over the last 12 years and never had a negative review. My replacement was just approved for an office, not in ATL or Dallas, but he or she will be in an office 3-5 days per week. So, I guess it is what it is. I am just waiting for my final walking papers.

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Post ID: @1xnp+1rItcFn3

I know several people who work remotely who were told to go into hub offices so many times a month to simply check a box. They don't work with anyone in the hubs they have to periodically report to.

As others have said, this is hardly about collaboration or where the work can get done.

The fact that Legg is ramping up hiring in India is all you need to know that their arguments are full of sh*t

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Post ID: @1yum+1rItcFn3

Im so sorry you’re going through this - I would suggest challenging this with HR. This entire RTO is a joke and they can pick and choose who they want which is ludicrous! If someone else can do your job from an off location not in Dallas or Atlanta why can’t you? Seems very much like discrimination. Please pursue it! Stand up for yourself

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Post ID: @1wza+1rItcFn3

Enjoy your Spring Break. Forever.

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Post ID: @1mxj+1rItcFn3

“ Don’t let your manager tell you he or she wasn’t directly involved in this process“

100% true.

But the manager “will” say that. And once they do, there’s not much you can say, except that you don’t believe them. And you’re gone anyway.

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Post ID: @1rhz+1rItcFn3

I mean no disrespect, it's not a comment about you, but your replacement probably does the same work for way less money, so it works out for them. Again, not saying the replacement is as good, as I have no idea, but it all comes down to simple math at the end, all the collaboration BS is... well, BS, and we all know it.

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Post ID: @1kgx+1rItcFn3

Hold the door, sadly there will be THOUSANDS of fellow employees impacted this year due to declining the forced job relocation to another state across the country.

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Post ID: @1rxg+1rItcFn3

@txd+1rItcFn3

Exactly!

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Post ID: @1udo+1rItcFn3

chose coaching soccer rather than doing real work.

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Post ID: @qlh+1rItcFn3

You will get more answers from your manager and director than posting on an anonymous external message board. You need to ask your direct leadership why they ranked you lower in surplus rankings indicating you were expendable. Don’t let your manager tell you he or she wasn’t directly involved in this process.

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Post ID: @gas+1rItcFn3

Are you over 50? If so, Stankey wants you gone. The only people over 50 allowed is Stankey and his direct reports.

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Post ID: @txd+1rItcFn3

We all know RTO/forced job relocation is simply the latest layoff exercise to cut headcount.

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Post ID: @hln+1rItcFn3

Spelling and grammar are the true reasons.

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Post ID: @flv+1rItcFn3

Sometimes the company wants your team spread across locations to collaborate better with other teams at those locations. What exactly is the role, and which locations is it in?

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Post ID: @vtx+1rItcFn3

Based on your post, lack of proficiency in grammar and spelling was a factor.

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Post ID: @ryk+1rItcFn3

What is the real reason you were selected for surplus?

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Post ID: @jpz+1rItcFn3

You made a choice.

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Post ID: @quh+1rItcFn3

I am not an attorney but that sounds actionable to me.

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Post ID: @sao+1rItcFn3

At least you were given an option.

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Post ID: @yoi+1rItcFn3

They want me to relocate to Dallas and all of my team is elsewhere as well.

The purpose of the exercise isn’t about collaboration, they just don’t view people who aren’t in their over-packed hubs as valuable anymore.

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Post ID: @xxv+1rItcFn3

All about the cull-ture

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Post ID: @lid+1rItcFn3

Let me guess. You’re a top performer. Everyone is.

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Post ID: @htg+1rItcFn3

There is more to this story than you are sharing. Did you ask your manager about this? It would appear that even if you live in an at will state, you still have some sort of a case here.

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Post ID: @lnp+1rItcFn3

sounds like grounds for a law suit. perhaps if happening to enough people, a class action suit. this whole RTO is a sham and a mess

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Post ID: @dhm+1rItcFn3

ha. yeah, the new groups being made will all work together remotely. it doesn't make sense. that's fine, march me out with a severance. I'll take all my training with me.

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Post ID: @fjc+1rItcFn3

It’s a (weak) pretext to “cull the herd”…and (thus) further line the C suite pockets.

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Post ID: @lhx+1rItcFn3

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