Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Remote and severance

Hearing remote employees even those with a medical accommodation will be required to return to office. If refuse even due to a medical condition there will be no severance

True?

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Post ID: @OP+1rJpbrCI

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So layoffs in California. Realize all the “at will” and Wells policy, ect. But it seems like “discrimination” on US workers with medical plans who can work anywhere. Is anyone suing this company. Yet? It’s Just an excuse to layoff those on medical plans that don’t come in. How is it ok?

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Post ID: @lkic+1rJpbrCI

If you’re remote and have an ADA accommodation, you’ll be bounced. “We’re exiting city X regardless of who is there.”. I have to cut 6 people. 3 of which are all in the same city. 1 has an accommodation. Relocation will probably be offered to 1% of the population. Location strategy = headcount reduction. Period.

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Post ID: @4xca+1rJpbrCI

I just love the euphemisms. "Growth" market, ha. The only employee growth this company will see is in I&P. 5 years from now we'll be lucky if there are any domestic WF employees outside of HY.

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Post ID: @3uwq+1rJpbrCI

Yes. And, next big round of layoffs will be in May. Certain managers have been letting the info slip that they will do doing spans & layers again then round one of laying off remote folks and those not within the 40 mile from their LOB growth/maintain/specialty markets. And, don't try to relocate to what they claim is a "growth" market as they need to eliminate in US to hire in India.

The remote with medical accommodation they will layoff stating the accommodation of being remote is no longer "reasonable". Companies only have to provide a " reasonable accommodation" so that's how they get away with it.

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Post ID: @3oek+1rJpbrCI

"work in a WF facility", jokes on them. I WFH. I go to a facility to swipe a badge, take a dump, BS about everything but work, and then go home to actually get things done. I call it collaborating around the water cooler.

FHY.

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Post ID: @2fxz+1rJpbrCI

Has there been any talk of lay offs for the remote Customer Service reps in Southern California? Does anyone know any information?

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Post ID: @1mym+1rJpbrCI

i was 100% remote with a medical exception - it is absolutely true they are requiring us to come into the office (i am in a hub location). they didn't do anything to change the office to accommodate my particular condition.
i heard from another manager when i went in that they are considering reviewing all medical accommodations once again this year (i've had to renew every year at the beginning of the year) and that very few exceptions will be granted.
if they try to accommodate you and you refuse i dont believe you'll get serverance

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Post ID: @1isi+1rJpbrCI

@1wzu+1rJpbrCI is correct. When WF looks at accommodations it's from a "how can we accommodate you so that you can work at a WF facility." If that fails then they may say you can be remote. You may be required to "try" whatever reasonable accommodations they might suggest. (Change in schedule, fewer days in the office, a different location etc.) If they review your current accommodation and decide to try a different accommodation other than WFH, then you pretty much have to try it or face the repercussions of failure to RTO.

An accommodation is definitely not a protection from being displaced (whether you're in hub or not in a hub.) It might shield you from return to office policy because that's how they can accommodate you, but it won't shield you from location strategy, position elimination etc. There are plenty of ways WF can displace people and they are all independent of one another.

Would it su-k to have to relocate to a hub and then WFH from there. Yes. Would it also su-k to have to relocate to a hub and then work from a location there. Also yes. Yes it's d-mb. But both scenarios could be equally as d-mb. Say you do go into the office after relocating to a hub but NO ONE on your team is there. The outcome isn't really different from one person to the next - neither works with their teammates whether it be at home or at an office. The whole thing is nonsense. (But to HY that's the goal. That's why they're doing it.)

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Post ID: @1kqw+1rJpbrCI

@ubo+1rJpbrCI You do understand that accommodations DO NOT “protect” your job right? It is exactly what it is, an accommodation. Let’s say you’re neurodiverse and can’t handle sensory issues all wells has to do is designate a meeting room as a quiet zone and there is your accommodation, welcome back to work.

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Post ID: @1wzu+1rJpbrCI

Relocate to remote to then keep same crummy job, got it.

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Post ID: @urs+1rJpbrCI

We were told that if you are within 40 miles of your assigned hub, but remote due to an accommodation, they have to honor it. However, if you aren't aligned to a hub, and remote with an accomodation, it will not protect your job.

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Post ID: @ubo+1rJpbrCI

everyone has been saying how short sites and sc--wed we will be for the last few years given all the layoffs but yet we are still here and doing just fine. if you are remote and get laid off due to location strategy then you will get severance. for all those who feel everyone should be treated equally, here you have it, remote workers getting treated the same as non remote. if you don't like it find another gig that will let you work remotely from anywhere.

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Post ID: @hgv+1rJpbrCI

It is a truly tragic situation. And I firmly believe that in 8 months the Oh S%#T moment will come when they do not have enough experienced people to do that actual work that is needed. Upper leadership is delusional. But NYC was 100% designated a hub....Hmmmmmm

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Post ID: @mkd+1rJpbrCI

They can’t touch your severance. They don’t want to be sued and have the associated negative publicity.

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Post ID: @ijz+1rJpbrCI

We understand that it's the policy, it's a morally bankrupt policy that only a real POS would support. Not everyone is cut out to be a leader, and the current regime in HY obviously isn't, but S like this proves that they are horrible human beings as well. It's just disgusting. 'you have to be in a hub!" meanwhile, being 9000 miles away is cool to because they'll work cheaper over there. Or making your own hub or just being remote because you're an exec. F all these exec clowns and their stupid schemes. Pay me my severance and F off Shart.

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Post ID: @rco+1rJpbrCI

this has been communicated by the groups actively working through location strategy right now. as stated prior, if you are remote due to medical accomodation the location strategy applies and you need to be within 40 miles of a core/specially location for your group. If you aren't then too bad. Some may get asked to relocate but most will likely be laid off. No different than if I was in the office at a location that is not part of my groups strategy. All your accomodations gets you is the ability to work from home in a market area of wells Fargo's choosing.

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Post ID: @tup+1rJpbrCI

Having a medical accommodation does NOT exempt you from the location strategy. This is clearly laid out right on your accommodation approval. If you do not live within 40 miles of an approved hub for your LOB you will be likely be laid off, but will receive severance. Separately- your accommodation letter also states that your accommodation may need to be re-reviewed for approval at any point. If they determine the accommodation is no longer necessary they can require you to comply with return to office mandates.

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Post ID: @nqi+1rJpbrCI

I don't know, but FHY. It's complete BS to force a medically exempt person to relocate to a hub city...so they can WFH. Seriously, these execs need to go. They are truly evil.

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Post ID: @zmg+1rJpbrCI

Fake news.

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Post ID: @see+1rJpbrCI

Heard the same. Heard also that remote workers that are not in a core or specialty hub will also ask to relocate.

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Post ID: @fla+1rJpbrCI

Voluntary termination

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