Thread regarding L3Harris Technologies layoffs

Has anyone seen any severance payment yet?

when are the severance payments going to be paid?

FYI. jobs for program managers and engineering including manufacturing engineers and technicians are being posted for Clifton New Jersey beginning 3 days ago. There are currently over a dozen open positions posted since the layoffs on April 11th. isn't that special? and I bet you were still waiting for a call back. keep waiting id--ts.

Totally depends on what they are asking you to waive and if you sign voluntarily and have sufficient time to review the document. Certain waivers are entirely legal and some things cannot be waived. You can always sue but don't be so certain that all waivers will be thrown out. This isn't the first rodeo for L3H.

No one can be forced to relinquish their right to sue. Any signed statement would be thrown out of court. Employees who sign such a thing are doing so under the duress of losing severance pay. That is illegal in every state. If you were forced to sign a statement promising not to sue in exchange for your severance pay, report it to the local office of the Department of labor in your State. If you can afford to hire an attorney, by all means, do so. Also, report it to the D.A. in your state as well. And lastly, without revealing your name, go on social media and tell everyone what they did.

At the risk of beating a dead horse, for what ever reason the company chose to embrace DEI, they clearly did it wrong in Clifton. They replaced the employee candidate screening tests with "training". Meaning everybody gets hired. I was there when this was happening. People who did not speak any English and could not get a clearance because of questionable legal status were hired anyway. As long as they fit the criteria of "marginalized by systemic racism". I was tasked with onboarding a number of these folks and I can tell you the whole thing was a giant compliance fraud. The new hires that could not exhibit the mechanical aptitude for a job were paid to sit on their a-s. The work was done by others who were instructed to let the new hires charge the time for it. That's right, the leadership teams at Clifton were committing time card fraud. I was personally directed to complete a job while a "trainee" looked on. Afterwards, I was told to allow that person to charge time for the job while I was told to charge "training" on my hourglass. We were all made to do this. Some of the people charging time to a job weren't even present when the work was done. Any of us that complained were questioned about our own biases. We had to take online courses, educating us on our "subconscious biases".
But the one thing the company could not control, was the terrible workmanship performed by these hires. As experienced people left the company, the work had to be done by unqualified people. The failure rate for micro-assembly shot up to 50%. This past fall, following an unstoppable, year long exodus of engineers and seasoned technicians, the director of operations abruptly left the company, followed by his successor just 2 months later.
The layoffs that occurred in Clifton on April 11, allowed the company to purge a lot of these terrible workers without appearing to be racist. Of 250 union workers, 80 of the most recently hired were let go. Over 100 non-union management staff were also cut but they were mostly people on the upper end of the salary scale.
This was too little, too late. SAS is in decline. Every program is either over budget or behind schedule, or both. This downward spiral, which began after Harris acquired Exelis, accelerated after the merger of L3 and Harris. I saw the writing on the wall and retired in 2023 after 20 years as a senior technician. I know now that I made the right choice. Of my colleagues who are still there, I wish them well. But if you're reading this, please know that your loyalty is wasted. You must make the business decision that will best protect your career. And I feel it means moving on while you can do it at a time of your choosing. Don't be lulled into a sense of false security because you survived this most recent layoff. There will be more, and deep down, I think you all know it.
Godspeed.

Not sure about other areas but Rochester NY has always had problems attracting folks willing to go through the rigorous clearance process required there. In the last few years could barely find any new hires that did not smoke pot...

Once folks figure out L3Harris will "outboard" you as quick as a lightning strike L3Harris won't be able to beg enough clearable folks to "onboard".

Wishing everyone well, sometimes what looks like a setback is actually an opening door you where not looking for.

Everyone let go here on longisland SAS we-pons release over 60 years old up
To 43 years of service no one less than than 25 years.
Security treated the like criminals. So sad people that dedicated there life's to protecting this country with there talents.
L3harris is focused on very young individuals no mentoring big mistake.
I have never wanted a union
But may be needed t I protect
Senior dedicated talent to protect this country.

Google: Alight Solutions lawsuits

I was walked out last Thursday with no option to even ho back to my office to get my personal items. I was given 1 weeks pay for every year of service and told that benefits will end at midnight.
I was a 100% billable employee on a govt contract with security clearance. My PM was walked out as well, again a 100% billable employee. I hope the coworkers that are left holding the bag aren't forced to work too much OT to cover for the lost billable hours on these contracts...getting cleared resources in the Rochester NY area is an extremely long and drawn out process. Esp ones with 20+ years of Customer knowledge and experience.

I got 1 weeks pay. Opportunity for COBRA. Was told I make too much money and that is why I was chosen for termination. Which makes no sense since I was at 30 percentile of my job level. I worked for L3Harris for 6 years. Manager was completely blindsided by my termination. She didn't even know I was terminated until after she texted me after she didn't see me after lunch. She asked if I was okay or needed anything. I responded that I was laid off and escorted out. She was shocked as I was presenting in a meeting that afternoon. I find it sad how employees were treated.

What do you expect from someone who cheats on his wife to sleep with a subordinate?

These people have 0 empathy and integrity. They’ll step over anyone to make millions. The sooner you realize corporations like this are nothing but evil money making schemes due to our dysfunctional, capitalist society, the more you’ll be at peace.

Upon exit the staff let go had to sign papers stating they would not
sue the company.
If they don't no severance
Pay.

There may have technically violated the WARN notification requirement but if the proper severance was paid it won't matter. Companies do this all the time. Basically prepaid the penalty.

Pretty sure they violated NJWARN by laying off more than 50 in the state and provided no notice. https://www.nj.gov/labor/employer-services/warn/ has no filing yet.

This is the BIG DOWNSIDE of the STEM careers that L3H sends people out to schools to encourage. I forbid my kids from going into engineering. They listened!

"Amended NJWARN greatly expanded the severance pay requirement in two ways: (1) even when an employer provides the required 90 days’ advance notice, the employer must still pay severance pay to each employee impacted by a covered triggering event (still calculated as one week of pay for each year of service); and (2) if an employer fails to provide the required 90 days’ advance notice, the employer must pay an additional 4 weeks of severance pay to each employee who did not receive the required 90 days’ notice."

Per the NJ warn act as of April 2023, any company with 100 more employees who layoff 50 or more combined need to file a warn notification and give the employees 90 day notice as well as a min severance of 1 week for each year, I also Believe health benefits for a certain time are required

Have a call in to NJ dept of labor to question whether the WARN Act has been violated, keep you all posted

How does 250 comply , anyone hear of the WARN act many companies being sued for such violations

It’s as if Luke Savoie knew when to bounce out of Greenville and move to greener pastures.

I am hearing no severance and benefits cease at midnight. Can anyone verify this?

The laid off many needed individual contributors but continue to add layers of upper management (in some cases 9 layers deep). The higher ups continue to make money while others suffer. This company does don't treat employees well at all.

I was blessed to be spared. I’ll have to fire L3HARRIS soon though. Theyve treated me well, here. But NOW they simply can’t be trusted.

My family member was let go from Malabar on Thursday. She was a manufacturing technician supporting TR3 (DL). They moved her into the group a few months ago since they needed help. I reached out to her manager at the time she was laid off and the manager wasn’t even aware nor was he in the room with HR when she was terminated. They are super busy and she was working a ton of OT. Now he has to pull someone from Palm Bay and train them to pick up what she was doing. Talk about a waste of time. Makes zero sense!

Deeply saddened to hear this news. It impacts many families including one of our own. The news coverage called it a lay off. If so does the mean unemployment funds are available to those who lost their jobs? Will essential employers be hired back?

Good read from Reddit:

LHX Next gets us Boeing’d

The 5% Layoffs and single minded journey to $1B in (promised) cost cuts w/ in 3 Years is on us.

Some facts about the person (Chris Kubasik) getting us there, all this is public info:

he is an Accountant by trade, no Operations or Engineering background.
he resigned from Lockheed after a long term extra marital affair with a subordinate.
he was told (by Board of Directors) to grow the company, and went on an acquisition spree last 2 years.
investments within L3Harris were kept light during the Growth By Acquisition mode.
he is under pressure from D.E. Shaw activist investors to Right-Size the company costs.
multiple divisions within L3Harris have been sold or (planned) to close during his tenure.
he swiped the LHX Next branding from the Better-Intended-Customer-Minded IMS Next program.
he recently sold $9.8M in L3Harris stock JUST PRIOR to the 5% Reduction in Workforce.
None of this looks good for employees of L3Harris. MAYBE it looks better for stock investors.

Let’s remember what Boeing acted like during David Calhoun’s tenure; it got worse from the Cost First Muillenberg era. Calhoun was an Accountant running an engineering based company. Similar to L3Harris under Kubasik.

I hope the stock holders are happy seeing Boeing-like results surfacing (in few years). By then, it won’t be today’s stockholders (or Execs) holding the bag.

DEI is part of the problem- saw dozens of resumes for 2 years during the 'push' and none of them were white males- which begs the question how, in this industry, there is no qualified white males applying.

The DEI candidates I saw were great on paper- but bad in reality. Mentoring them took time (indirect labor) which turned out to count against you- and was one of the contributing factors I got laid off for (too much).

So being asked to fill in their education gaps, hold their hands, wipe their knows, check their phone time because they spend the entire day playing on it... and then get canned for your work.

Never help a new hire unless some C-suite exec asks you to.

... and let's not even talk about all the labor mischarging that got covered up when they didn't do anything.

Looks like Kubasik isn’t the only dough boy.

“$L3Harris Technologies (LHX.US)$ Officer MIKUEN SCOTT T sold 4,655 shares of Common Stocks on Mar 15, 18, 2024 at an average price of $212.38 for a total value of $988.64K.”

I left in 2021 I saw the hand writing on the wall. Glad I did.

Bravo, well said, however I will be the first to admit that I am very anti union based on my previous experience working and/or interacting with union workers.

However this week's event is making me reevaluating my opinion. But would union have prevented what happened? How were the unioned folks impacted by this RIF?

In light of recent events, it has become apparent that the time for unity and collective action is now more pressing than ever. Many of you have experienced firsthand the unsettling reality of being deemed indispensable one moment and expendable the next, reflecting a disruptive pattern of decisions made at the highest levels of L3Harris leadership.

The stories emerging from within our ranks - of sudden layoffs, questionable management practices, and a seeming disregard for the dedication and sacrifices made by employees - paint a picture of a company in dire need of change. The narrative of prioritizing quarter-over-quarter financials, at the expense of the very workforce that upholds the company, is a common thread binding us together in shared dismay and disillusionment.

The CEO's decision to take significant stock benefits just before enacting widespread layoffs is particularly disheartening, underscoring a disparity between the priorities of L3Harris’s leadership and the well-being of its employees. This action, alongside the unsettling practices within some departments and locations, underscores the need for a united front among past and present employees.

This letter serves as a call to action for all of us. It is time to consider how we can come together, perhaps in the form of unionizing or through other collective measures, to ensure a fairer treatment for all employees. Those who have been laid off deserve support in finding new opportunities, where the value of their skills and dedication will be recognized and rewarded. Simultaneously, those who remain within the company have the power to advocate for change from within, pushing back against practices that undermine employee engagement and morale.

Unionizing offers a pathway to protect our rights, secure fair pay, and ensure that layoffs, when necessary, are conducted with transparency and fairness. Furthermore, it provides a platform for collective bargaining, ensuring that our voices are heard and that decisions affecting our futures are made with our consultation and input.

For those of us who have moved on, either by choice or by force, let us use our experiences to fuel our determination for better, more respectful employment opportunities. Let’s support each other in building networks, identifying opportunities, and sharing resources to ensure we all land on our feet, ideally in environments that value our contributions and respect our worth.

This moment, as challenging as it is, presents us with an opportunity to reshape our future. By coming together, we can advocate for a workplace that respects its workforce, values integrity, and prioritizes the well-being of its employees over short-term financial gains. Let us stand united, lending our voices, our strength, and our conviction to initiate the change we deserve.

Together, we can emerge stronger, ensuring that the practices we’ve endured do not define us, but rather, propel us towards a future where fairness, respect, and integrity are not just espoused values, but lived realities.

With solidarity,

Just a few weeks ago I was told that I am "critical to the team and future of L3Harris".
Thursday I was told "your skills are not up to par for the future of L3Harris".
Worked in my position for 5 years and really enjoyed who I worked with. Really disappointed with how things ended.

How much of the $1B savings could be taken care of if the C-Suite actually cared and was willing to sacrifice themselves, instead of asking the rest of the company? They wouldn't have their salaries or quarterly bonuses without the workforce they just cut and continue to make suffer. Then they wonder why engagement is so low and why people keep leaving.

I was being medically separated from the military in Dec of 2022 and was hired and started for L3Harris on November 2022 so I had some crossover time for bot jobs. I was hired as an Integrated Product Support specialist for a program in Tulsa. I and my family relocated from WA state for this job in Oklahoma and was was told numerous times how desperate they were for someone with my skill and knowledge. Not even a year goes by and the first program I work on undercuts the budget by 33% and they instantly drop my position laying me off (even though just 24hrs before I was assured that I had job security). Luckily I was able to laterally transfer to another program at the new campus in Tulsa. This program had just signed a new contract with a dedicated pot of money for me to obsolescence for their program. 3 weeks later I get called into the office to be informed that now corporate is laying me off because there isn't enough money for my position. I counted how can that be when customer "X" just signed a new contract and gave you dedicated money for my position. They had no response and proceeded to walk me out the door. To this day I tell everyone to run away from L3Harris as fast as possible. Nothing good comes from them. As prior military, all of their radios are hit trash, and they have even worse customer service, and once I worked for them I finally realized just how skeezy of a company they really are.

I was asked to move my family across country for a new position about 6 months ago. Got a decent raise. I was walked out along with several others Thursday after lunch. I'm absolutely gutted and lost. Wife and I sacrificed and left out community with a hope and promise of great things to come on the future. We are at a loss of what to do now. All benefits "expired" at midnight.

I’ve been trying to figure out why they would give raises and promotions a few weeks ago to people that were going to be let go. It was smart because it took away raises from the people that were here to stay. Good job adulterers, ethics violators and inside traders that was real sly.

The fruits of Bill Browns & Kubasik’s culture of chasing this quarters financials, and zero engagement with what actually goes on in the business. The lack of engagement and strategic thinking ran down deep to the GM level and lower, thanks to their bonus policy. They would conduct engagement surveys and then blame bottom rung workers when the survey roll up was not surprisingly negative.

LHX was just emulating other “successful” Teflon coated primes like Boeing. Look at the results - our country’s wheels are literally falling off thanks to rotten top level leadership across the country.

L3 Harris talks about ethics , code of conduct.
The CEO should take a lesson practice what
He is preaching . He also dumped last week
Many shares of the stock he owns in L3harris.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/afontevecchia/2012/11/09/lockheed-ceo-elect-kubasik-fired-over-relationship-with-subordinate/?sh=6e4960944d8c

Let-go just after hitting my 10 year mark and barely getting a promotion. Never saw it coming.