Thursday April 11th, 6 months since the previous stealth Layoff, is the next target date.
Wild statements from 300 to 1300, but probably under 250 per state to comply with legal.
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I always thought DEI was very hypocritical and in fact discriminatory.
I am a man of color and had started with L3 over 19 years ago. It was a great company back then. I watch the company make very poor decisions after the merger, all in the context of DEI hires. They hired people to fill leadership roles that didn’t have the qualifications or proper education needed, but they filled the DEI mandate.
I and several other of my colored colleagues were all walked out the door yesterday.
I guess i can make a few statements here that will explain some of this nonsense … L3 took over our company few Years ago, they decided to hire DOUBLE the mid-level management. Managers that used to be responsible for 3-4 production lines were now responsible for single one. Supervisors with zero education were given salaries surpassing those of managers with BA in competing companies. As a hiring manager I was forced to hire based on quotas rather than skill, all of this forced good responsible people out of the company and they were replaced by either grandfathered in unqualified individuals or, unqualified “quota” hires … naturally, all of this resulted in horrific workplace culture… these layoffs are nothing new and I expect at least one more before the years end.
"All DEI hires are subhuman and need to be exterminated."
UNFATHOMABLY BASED.
Cannot understand why they’d let go so many good people and allow those who have had affairs with co-workers destroying both theirs and others families. The Greenville plant has plenty of those still working and to me are liabilities to the company. Guess being a common wh--e, male or female, is a qualification you must meet to be employed or at least protected from layoffs. What a JOKE!
"In Greenville people were being walked out right after being told, with health insurance (and presumably other benefits) apparently expiring at midnight."
that's cold...
In addition to learning that our CEO sold 9 million dollars worth of L3Harris stock recently, I also learned he violated Lockheed Martins code of ethics 12 years ago….
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/11/09/164822321/lockheed-martins-incoming-ceo-resigns-over-relationship-with-subordinate
They su-k up millions of dollars in tax breaks for employing people, make Hugh profits, grew 13% and then lay a lot of people off? They should give back the taxpayers money! They are a greedy, soulless company and the government should not award them contracts. Award them to companies that employ more people.
It’s telling how many of these comments are blaming DEI hires.
The white guy that got laid off in my department called out sick at least every other week, left two hours earlier than everyone else most days, and his last several reviews had multiple “does not meet expectations.”
But nah, it’s definitely because of the black man who got hired into the group.
I am sorry to those who lost their jobs. I’ve heard quite a few things that I think are unfair, such as rumors that taking all of your 160 hours of vacation time put you on the short list. It does make me reconsider my employment in the long term, as those “benefits” were the reason I took the pay I did. Defeats the purpose if I’m not actually supposed to use them.
"How much time did they give people before termination goes into effect? Also benefits ends immediately at termination? If so, that's cruel."
In Greenville people were being walked out right after being told, with health insurance (and presumably other benefits) apparently expiring at midnight.
https://www.dodig.mil/Components/Administrative-Investigations/DoD-Hotline/Hotline-FAQs/
I wonder if their phone is ringing off the hook? Seriously red programs will get redder and why? CEO needs new shoes.
How much time did they give people before termination goes into effect? Also benefits ends immediately at termination? If so, that's cruel.
For my fellow Clifton brethren and sistren taken from nj.gov
“You should file your claim immediately after you stop working full-time, even if you are getting severance pay. Payments that do not extend employment include severance payments based on years of service with an employer. ”
It's all about the Benjamin's. It isn't personal and has nothing to do with DEI. C-suite is totally responsible for over leveraging and making bad business decisions. Sad reality is the worker bees are expendable. No loyalty on either side.
I wish everyone impacted by this business decision finds their footing. My experience (and I have experienced this) is that this can be a blessing in disguise. God bless you all.
Some of the ugly comments directed toward people's experiences and opinions are just sad. Where is the decency or level of respect for one another and the practicing of DEI? You don’t have to agree with them and their “different” experiences they had at “different” sites but try and hold back some of the ugly. Has the 10,000 hours of DEI training taught you nothing? I use to give the training.
And if only it was one issue that led to L3H’s decline, it was many. Seriously, don’t be arrogant in messaging others as to thinking they are so simple as it is a one issue problem.
I’m just wondering if the toxic L3H culture taught some of you to be so disrespectful of others. Such actions only create a negative ugly culture.
Anonymity brings out the best in cowards. You don’t have to agree with others’ opinions by try and respect the differences and understand where they are coming from.
I’m seeing a lot of “DEI” hate comments in here. I guess you could call me a DEI since I am a women in engineering. I got laid off yesterday, along with another “DEI” on my team. If you think that diversity in the workplace is the problem here, that we are preferred and cherished over the “well-qualified white male employee”, please think again and think harder. They don’t give a f*ck about you or me or any other cog in the money machine. These layoffs targeted quite literally anyone and everyone — a ton of incredibly intelligent and qualified people — so please keep your bigoted views to yourself.
The layoffs are not over at least in Clifton. More are being walked out right now. It's up to about 180.
L3Harris "NeXT" in the hometown news:
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/money/business/2024/04/12/melbourne-based-l3harris-reducing-its-workforce-in-cost-cutting-effort/73296565007/
Worked at the Greenville site as an intern in 2019 and was full-time from 2020-2022. The merger really sc--wed up middle management and there were priority shifts just about every quarter trying to chase new contracts and profits instead of actually caring about quality control on existing products. Absolute mess and I feel terrible for everyone affected by the RIFs. For the new hires, this company is in a death spiral. Get your 2-3 years experience and then get out.
blaming ""DEI hires"" and not the greedy & inept C-suite is hilarious.. your crosshairs are misguided. they are in their cozy VP offices laughing watching you blame non-whites for them axing you without a second thought..... its a big club and you aint in it!
There’s some people here that really need to be let go and unfortunately they made the cuts so far. Level 6 engineers (senior manager) that just sit in meetings all day and run their own meetings inefficiently and haphazardly I’m talking to you.
Worst CEO ever. Management allows poor management of programs and blames teams instead of replacing leadership. Chirp about how strong ethics are but turn away from problems due to favoritism. The FOR SALE sign is staked.
If people people blame DEI on this I suggest they get their head out of their a-s. If they blame DEI and got laid off, I can sleep peacefully knowing there's one less bigot working there. People are probably relieved they don't have to hear your political rants anymore.
The real enemy is the c-suite trying to appease the shareholders and trying to make a quick buck instead of a long term gain. And of course, foolishly overspending for AR. The CEO basically spelled it out for you in PR speak in the email. Who also sold a ton of shares 2 weeks ago, knowing this was coming. You know, the insider trading training you do? I guess it doesn't apply to them.
https://knoxdaily.com/2024/04/11/selling-buzz-l3harris-technologies-inc-lhx-chair-and-ceo-kubasik-christopher-e-sells-6258-shares-of-the-company/
If people actually think DEI is the cause of any of this, might I suggest seeing a neurologist
I worked at Harris, L3Harris for many years (late 90's). Harris was a good Co. and had a lot of family events and the culture was a positive one. When it merged to form L3Harris, the old good, Harris died. A crazy amount of DEI hires that weren't qualified were hired at FL sites. If they were good looking, they moved up org. chart fast. No matter if they were qualified or had enough experience for the role. The org. chart just needed a rainbow complexion and experience didn’t matter. Not all DEI hires were bad for sure, some excellent hires, but too many were below the standards at the time and this negatively affected the program execution performance. There were never any discrimination problems to begin with, so this DEI obsession was a huge waste of time and energy and meanwhile, the programs were run horribly. After being on 20 or so programs the good ones would be about 50% of the time historically, but they started to be all bad about 7 years ago. The work culture became toxic and the basics of running a company and making money was thrown out the window for all of this woke BS. A huge exodus of white folks with 20+ year folks started about 2 years ago at the FL site. All were tired of lack of opportunity and the blatant discrimination. I left to as it was bad, I no longer enjoyed my job and the future only looked like it would be worse. I was tired of doing my job and everyone else’s job as well to make up for the bad hiring and all for zero reward and low pay. I’m totally not surprised it has come to this due to the terrible, unqualified, and disrespectful management. Who wants to work for a bunch of a-holes. Grass is greener on the other side trust me. Change is hard but in this case it can only be for the better!
20+ years, laid off yesterday. 'RIF'd. Department GL and EM have no backbones and cave to superheros- who are now retiring with no backfill. Refused to place (me) because NCGs and DEIs were preferred for programs, which were then sent back for no experience.
As a reminder, never see anything that is suspicious and never commit anything you see to writing. It will come back to haunt you- the whole concept of quality is just as bad as Boeing- and you can see it in the way they're handling email retentions.
Come in young at L3Harris, get a couple of 'protected' years, build your knowledge/skillset, then leave for a better job.
In Clifton, It looks like 38 out of 250 union jobs were lost so far. The number may go as high as 80. However, management will lose well north of 100. Including any former union person who took a promotion to a management job in the last 5 years. ( that was a bad gamble.) A few 60-year-olds who have been with the company since they were 18 years old were let go. (formerly ITT employees.) At least one senior manager of operations and many clerical, non - leadership positions. The entire QCE team was gutted from top to bottom including all incoming inspection people. And as if that isn't bad enough, unionized assemblers who were not laid off are being asked to fill in for vacant QC jobs temporarily. Are they kidding?? The nepotism that was so pervasive the last couple of years has backfired big time. Married couples (and their relatives) were laid off without notice on the same day! (Looks like the "friends and family plan" of hiring didn't work out so well.) DEI hires are crying discrimination (in foreign languages of course.) The ones that are left are saying there will be no more layoffs after this. And they actually believe that after what just happened. Well, stupid is as stupid does. Let them stay. For those of you who were let go, let not your hearts be troubled. When one door closes, another one opens. You will survive and look back on this as a valuable learning experience. Including, the real value of loyalty and the meaning of trust.
I got it yesterday.
Melbourne FL.
WPG/TISR.
I was planning on retiring in Dec.
Sure would have been nice if they would have offered a retirement package before cutting us with 7 weeks severance.
Newer managers and directors have been making very poor and irreversible decisions causing long term damage to our company’s future and our reputation… And now this…
I was let go after 6 years and record performance. Here is some feedback for others.
Severance is one week pay for each year service. Benefits stop same day you are removed from Job. COBRA available but expensive.
If you are still left, this is beginning. Update your resume and start searching now. This company is in serious financial trouble and the back orders are full of non profitable programs. Under bid to win and employees suffer to pay for it.
In addition, this company created two new executive positions in March then fired 1000s of employees under them.
To those who were terminated, we get to turn this unfortunate situation into finding a better career and positive environment for us now.
To the person below who asked about severance, I was given 8 weeks worth.
Can someone share what kind of severance was offered?
How’s all that mandatory DEI training working out for the company now?
Is GVL in the clear or will there be more tomorrow and/or Monday?
Sad to hear of this. I worked for L3 Harris at GVL. Harris is a terrible company. Can you imagine being the one who they forced to take the jabs, and then kick you out 3 years later? L3 was a decent company before Harris hooked up with them. Harris even terminated all the free Thanksgiving turkeys. The L3 Harris CEO makes $19.5 million/year.
L3H Scientist in Roch NY, 42 years electrical/optical. Let go today. Government customer is "begging" for technology I developed. Will let L3H explain to customer why they can't have the gee wh-z stuff I figured out...
Was retiring in 10 weeks, now they pay me 42 weeks if pay.... Id--tic....
This is HARRIS's fault not L3. This was a HARRIS takeover. I was a L3 employee and saw the handwriting on the wall when Harris got 51 percent of the stock and L3 got 49 percent. Additionally all the management was replaced with Harris. I saw this and retired the day before the takeover. HARRIS ran it in the ground.
I was fortunate today. I cannot say the same for multiple of my seniors who I looked up to. I had an exceptional PM for one of the most grueling projects I've ever worked in my (shorter than most) 7 years. He was the first most of us heard of today. In fact that individual might even be the post two below mine, if so TEAM NWC!!!
Today was really bad. I'm glad I still have my job, but I'm worried about what's going to happen next. I feel guilty for having a job when others don't, and I'm scared that I might still lose mine too. Doing my best to be prepared.
But - “Nice work L3. You acquired a perfectly sound company and deliberately effed it up.” Harris purchased L3, not the other way around.
I'm a PM in Melbourne FL. Got laid off today. No notice. Was hard worker and gave it my all. Govt customer not happy either. It's shocking to say the last.