I tracked my time the last two weeks (last week of march, first weeks of April) RTO is costing time

I was asked to track my total work time and commute time between office and work from home on a day-to-day basis for two weeks. Here is what I found.

When working from home, I am working (in front of a computer actively doing something) for, on average, 8.7 hours. That excludes approximately 30 minutes of getting up for the bathroom, grabbing food, or making personal calls. But includes working time while eating at my desk. When working from the total work time is 8.7 hours on average per day. I will sign on between 8:00 - 8:30 am and will sign off between 5:00-5:30 pm.

When at the office, I spend between 60-75 minutes on my commute both ways. I am working an average of 7.2 hours when at the office. That excludes about 60-90 minutes of breaks, having to go somewhere to grab food, office chit chat, and walking around to stretch legs and rest eyes from the fluorescent lights. I have to leave the office no later than 4:30 pm to hopefully get home before dinner time. I leave my house between 6:30 and 6:45 am to arrive by 8 am and get a good seat, and as mentioned earlier, I leave by 4:30 to get home to have any sort of time with my family in the evening.

I WFH two days per week for a total of 17.4 working hours, and am at the office for three days for a total of 21.6 working hours. The company is losing over four productive hours of my time each week by mandating RTO instead of allowing me to work from home, which I have done for 12 years now. That is 208 hours per year, or the equivalent of 26 days lost because my but has to be in an uncomfortable chair at an office location with none of my coworkers or peers. My work at home and office is the same. I spend most of my day on the phone on team calls to the rest of my team, also spread out across different hubs.

RTO is costing the company time and money, not saving them time and money.

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Less hours when in the office. You must be more productive there to get your stuff done quicker.

What org are you in where it is still 3 says? Mine is 5 days.

I was told the company knows this and doesn’t care.

I am more productive in the office since there are fewer distractions.

Leave at 6:30 to get there by 8? lol why?

If it were up to the employee then, 99% would work from home. It’s about money for local businesses, taxes, leases, fuel, etc… not supporting the elite’s and government economy if you stay home.

WFH or RTO - depends upon the person. However, first priority wherever you are is to do your job, or as we'd say, well enough to meet the minimum mandatory requirements to stay employed.

Now, back to WFH/RTO. Choice should be up to the employee for the most part. Some people need to be at home where it's quiet. Some need to be in the office where they get away from the home environment. Both can be beneficial to the company.

You sychophant st00ges probably have monogrammed knee pads & chin guards.

Your numbers don’t add up. Taking the longest sign in time from 8 to 530 is 9.5 hours. 30 minutes only covers 2 15 minute breaks and no time has been excluded for your lunch. If you are working and eating lunch on the clock, you are falsifying your time sheet. You must log a time for lunch. So at best you are productive 8.5 hours if you code your time correctly from 8 to 530. Giving free time is not a legitimate way to boost your productivity. Your just spinning to make yourself feel better about wanting to WFH.

In general, keystrokes drop 25 percent while people work from home. You are probably one of the exceptions.

You have been tricked - you have self reported you are not not working a full day when in the office - you will be surplused soon.

How dare you expose RTO, a bad business decision in most cases. We all know what the real reason is for so, there is no reason to try and rationalize or measure it.

Who asked you to track this? Only you, or the team was asked? What was the response when you turned in your results? If I was your manager I would tell you to work the entire day when in the office and stop wandering around for 60 mins a day.

Why are you taking so many breaks when in the office? Why are you having to go grab food, bring the food you would have eaten if you were at home. Stretch legs, etc, you don’t do that at home? And, like others have said, why give the extra hours at home for this place, they don’t care about you. You should be working an 8 hour day regardless I’d salaried or not. Get back to work !!!

I bet you're a high performer. back to work!

“Many employees are not more productive at home and RTO is important. Be thankful you are still able to telecommute 2 days/week.”

Why is it important?
And if this is the case and MANY (which means some) aren’t as productive WFH as others, why can’t the choice of who gets the privilege to work from home be up to those who can best decide it (team leads, the employees direct report, etc).

Wouldn’t it make more sense to set the rules for this particular thing based on teams and project/team need vs blanket company wide?

“ I was asked to track my total work time and commute time between office and work from home on a day-to-day basis for two weeks“

No, you were not. No one asked you to do that.

You act as if “ someone” wants a legit analysis. They don’t. Because they don’t care. And everyone knows that. Logic has nothing to do with any of this. No one cares that you actually work less when going into the office. No one asked you to do this. All your bosses from L2 on up just want you green on the presence report. That is literally all anyone cares about. That is all you should care about at this point.

You are operating under the flawed assumption that the purpose of your job is to be productive. In fact, the purpose of your job is to provide a power base of people controlled by your management structure. When you work from home you take away that perception of power and control your position provides the egomaniac sociopaths at L4+.

You should be working that same 8-530 schedule while in the office. Plan your travel outside of that block.

You want people working 9.5 hours per day...HA... you're funny... No thanks... If I'm driving 60 minutes to do the same work, I can do from home... Then I'm leaving at a reasonable time to get home to spend time with my family, regardless of when I arrive.

60-90 minutes of breaks, having to go somewhere to grab food, office chit chat

This collaboration is what will cause att to file more patents. And cross pollinate ideas across teams
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Commute time is NOT counted as part of your work day! Nor is Lunch part of your work day, same as running errands (unpaid time).

You should be working that same 8-530 schedule while in the office. Plan your travel outside of that block.

I spend at least two hours per day at the office shooting the sh-t with people... but I guess that is the collaboration the man wants... Not my problem.

No one gives a sh-t

Come on, where is your real time going? Kid's soccer practice? Costco run? Sleeping in?

"Many employees are not more productive at home and RTO is important. Be thankful you are still able to telecommute 2 days/week."

Shut up, nerd.

They literally do not care

I am the opposite. In office I work 10 hour days 6:00-2:00 (8 hours) commute 2:00-3:00 work 3:00-5:00 ( 2 hours). At home I work 9.5 hours 7:30 - 5:00.

And what do you have to show for it? Probably nothing, right? so why do it?

it shouldn't be costing the company time. you should be getting in 8 hours, not 7.2. complete it per day, either at the office or remote.

Water cooler chats or going to the cafeteria to get food costs the company time. We are salaried, not hourly...

I am the opposite. In office I work 10 hour days 6:00-2:00 (8 hours) commute 2:00-3:00 work 3:00-5:00 ( 2 hours). At home I work 9.5 hours 7:30 - 5:00.

Why are you giving away 10 hours per week to the company that will replace you in a heartbeat?

it shouldn't be costing the company time. you should be getting in 8 hours, not 7.2. complete it per day, either at the office or remote.

I am the opposite. In office I work 10 hour days 6:00-2:00 (8 hours) commute 2:00-3:00 work 3:00-5:00 ( 2 hours). At home I work 9.5 hours 7:30 - 5:00.

Many employees are not more productive at home and RTO is important. Be thankful you are still able to telecommute 2 days/week.

Good review and most likely true for everyone.

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