But what do you actually do?

I don't work for Cisco, but I have a vested interest in the company.

I see so many job titles that have no real meaning. So, I seek out what they do on linkedin. Again, I see no real job skills or tasks in their profiles.

Interesting, very few of those people have an open to work banner. Yet, so many people with real titles and real skills are "Open to Work."

So, what is going on here? Why is Cisco filled with fluff jobs that apparently have no purpose and do nothing tangible. Yet, filled with out of work (laid off), staff that actually have hard skills with clear job descriptions.

As in the movie "Office Space", what do the seemingly majority of Cisco "Evangelists", "Leaders", "Influencers"," and "Ambassadors" and so on, ACTUALLLY DO for the customer?

Based on the terrible support from Cisco now, not a damn thing.

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Don't forget they deliberate lots before panicking end of Q and giving kit away for free

Personal disclosure I was at a reseller the Cisco AM would always try to squeeze my margins until I had enough

I would have the PO in my hand and say nothing for 15weeks eventually I'd get frantic calls and I'd suddenly become more profitable

The thing I find strange is everyone appears busy but no one actually does anything?
A call so you can recite this verbatim on your forecast call is zero value

This is the most sensible articulation I have seen Kudos!

Cisco is partner led

Talented partners carry very expensive useless people

Very expensive useless people bloat the organisation and demand a less than prudent allocation of resources

Their leaders/managers/bosses whatever the convention is now, only want to hear the wins and positives, anything that is flagged as room for improvement is shunned not reviewed etc

Eventually this practice means you have a blue chip carried by lazy expensive people with big egos

And Someone like fortinet , juniper etc that do basic fundamentals correctly ie see the customer, act professionally kick out catalyst

A “distinguished architect” was laid off. For all the years I’ve interacted with him/her, there was never anything of value, only thing done was forwarding email and CC other ppl.

As a customer, like Apple, Google, Microsoft and too many others they take my money and give me broken software on which they expect me to provide detailed bug reports while feeling they're owed all the data they can extract from me.

As part of the Zeitgeist they also worry about paradigms and holistic leadership while transforming problems into innovative opportunities through the use of multitasking.

People create Powerpoint presentations snd Excel worksheets, then have meetings about them.

Well--well look. I already told you: I deal with the g0d damn customers so the engineers don't have to. I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the he11 is wrong with you people?

As in the movie "Office Space", what do the seemingly majority of Cisco "Evangelists", "Leaders", "Influencers"," and "Ambassadors" and so on, ACTUALLLY DO for the customer?

Managers are called "Leaders" in these days.

We have influencers? How many follow them on social media? :D Sign me up for this job. I have 2000 Instagram followers and 1100 Facebook friends. I hope I qualify ...

Do they do anything for ANYONE???

I can find no skills for these people, yet they appear to be highly compensated fluff jobs.

Majority of Cisco employees just speak to each another and never do anything with customers

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