Both Liz and Thimaya have never been involved with actual CX deliver work. Just talking about customers, experience and service doesn’t cut for role. Soon everyone will see people movements and shuffling to show progress and transformation but key deliverables and key technical folks are left hanging to find their place and stability. Is that any surprise 😲 How big was Alistair package?
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It beggars belief that they would not only keep these two incompetents
but make them EVPs. Cisco is not a sinking ship, it is a broken Hill on the seabed.
This is not a promotion or reward for Liz. It is a vote of no confidence from the board, and a demotion of humiliating proportions, an acknowledgment that she was a complete and utter failure as CSO. She’d much preferred rather be focused on anything other than what she has been given. She has been effectively sidelined. In fact, she’d have been fired along with MM but did they didn’t want to boot them both at the same time for obvious reasons. Liz is a well known narcissist. Stay as far away from her as possible. Not only is she a deeply disturbed and toxic human, but she’s also a complete and utter airhead who has advanced through politics, superficial charm, and a te------t mindset. This is Liz’s last job at Cisco. She has come to the end of her run and she knows it. The gig is finally up. Either she will leave on her own or be pushed out. Liz will never be CEO. Ever. You can bank on it.
Cisco cares more about the dividends and stock price just like other big companies.
As has been pointed out on this site many times, it's been the law for over a century. Also pointed out on this site is the psychology of most people reacting far more favorably to confidence than competence which is why we have so many bad leaders.
She as the next CEO ! What a joke ?
She got into Cisco without any engineering degree and was running the software development group in network management.
She is one of them who acts like a diva and pulls all the strings with a good show on the stage with smart talking.
No wonder cisco stock is stuck even after billions of buy back. Cisco cares more about the dividends and stock price just like other big companies.
Cisco has promoted a number of EAs into executive positions. The result is what you see and expect when the secretary takes on assumed authority. Cisco still has a ton of those failures in the making now and in previous years.
Liz used to be my direct manager about 10-12 years ago, about 7-8 levels down in the organization (I'm still here). She was shifted into our BU above me as one of those temporary box-ticking jobs to "gain experience" and everybody knew she was a few quarters and gone onto the next gig.
Even back then, she was being boosted by unseen hands.
She's being groomed as the next CEO - we knew it then, and it's still true now.
The rumor is that Liz wouldn't have a job due to Splunk acquisition, so she was given the CX, let's see if she is able to run it without any services experience
I miss MM.
What a journey from EA to EVP.
"How is Liz and her management style? Will she start cutting straight off, or would want to wait a bit before restructuring? "
Liz let go of a huge chunk of some very smart people in Outshift already last year. Under her ET&I has been restructured literally every 6 months since 2019 and people shuffeld around, laid off without any regards to who they are or what they can deliver. She is chaos and restructuring personified. Does not care about her team or people under her as long as she is the centre of attention. Brace for impact.
These sound like placeholder appointments whilst they await the splink deal to finalise. Pay liz a hefty compensation then adious whilst T will outsource most of ops roles to offshore centre/caste buddy’s, then he’s gone, job done.
How is Liz and her management style? Will she start cutting straight off, or would want to wait a bit before restructuring?
It’s going to be a blood bath this summer.
We are too big and deep-rooted to be heavily impacted. We are good for at least a few years until the job market gets better. Still a good place to chill and fatten the bank account. A great 6 years then and at least another3 years more before the next hop.
As long as salaries are high and jobs can be outsourced, continuous cycle of layoffs will continue.
Some of these executives are known to get into a BU, do the layoffs, stay there for a while and then jump to another BU. They are smart talkers but deliver nothing. It is definitely a rodeo show.
Not sure who does their performance review, how do they jump from BU to BU and milk the cow for years.
Please, this isn't a disaster, this is good and should be expected. Maria's friends will be purged. Alistair is the first of many to go. And thank goodness, he was a stuffed shirt.
Thimaya did Alistair's job prior to being pulled out by Chuck to do "transformation"... Thimaya knows CX and the delivery work. He ran CX Globally when Maria created OneX. Also, don't underestimate Liz. This isn't her first rodeo, she sees people.
Let the FOM (friends of Maria) purge begin!
More LR's are coming....save your $$ to reduce anxiety (which is real). Plan ahead and take care of yourself instead of sitting around being afraid of a lay off.