Turn managers and directors into billable productive customers facing resources or let them go. No one needs layers of bosses who do nothing but check on employees and provide zero leadership. It’s estimated up to 75% of fat can be trimmed adding to Cisco growth.
This should be repeated every day, again and again. Reposted from: @jtd+1rqz9kTP.
Same can be said for ICs.
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Telling the peasants standing next to the "free shoes" booth that they don't have shoes is frowned upon here. With all the information available on the internet the lack of the most basic knowledge and skills in software at Cisco is staggering.
In sales I see bosses not leaders
Behaviour is squeezing people for figures AMs and specialists
I understand the pressure for numbers this is sales
But how dare you exert pressure without having regular 121s, coaching on deals or building morale
There is little distinction between an Al Capone shakedown and some leadership's processes for 'getting figures'
I question how and what the business does to allow such people grow into these positions
An old ww1 saying comes to mind Lions led by donkeys
In my group, tech leads and senior engineers work hard and do most of the work.
My manager does not know the technology X very well, just at the top level. Manager is very close to director.
Director cannot communicate in English but somehow manages since director knows VP very well.
Here manager and director are useless. No people skills and cannot motivate others. Luckily, the Tech leads are really good.
I’m the one who does the real work but there are at least five directors and tech leads who are asking me for status and competing in front of the same VP.
Some managers are absolutely worthless. If they ever get fired, good luck finding a new job with those skills. Only in Cisco
when i started at Cisco there was 6 layers to the CEO Chambers... Now there's 9 layers of management. Clean up the fat!
when i started at Cisco there was 6 layers of management. Now there's 9.... Why? Eliminate the fat
They just wanna get our credits and report up to their management and say because of their leadership, my guys are able to achieve this and that. But the truth is the guys success have absolutely nothing to do with this leaders. We can do everything without them. They didn’t even enable us with anything and yet “robbing” our credits. If there are nothing for you to help them report to their management, you are not doing good enough. Enough of this sh-t. Get rid of this so call mid tier leaders.
It's unfortunate, but many multinational corporations are consisting of upper management who don't know and don't care to know what their subordinates do, who hire the brown nosers, play the promoting the favorites over the achievers, and only know about metrics / bean counting where everything carries the same weight, even if the complexity, dollar value, etc.... are different.
Listen don’t knock it, I’m the SVP of parking and Janitors ,, proud day when I got that badge
It’s estimated up to 75% of fat can be trimmed adding to Cisco growth.
Why leave the other 25% of the fat? Just pare everything back to one manager, six worker bees. and the engineering millennia of technical debt which is choking both you and your customers. Cisco couldn't even figure out how to make their stuff work in their internal network so anyone saying its only management is further confirming they're part of the problem.
What drives me nuts with all the layers of management are all of the ridiculous All Hands and internal team meetings. They are so lame! The worst ones are the ones where they try to be funny but it’s so hokey and stupid. I remember one where the leaders wore sunglasses because they said the future was so bright. Every one of these meetings has the exact same format. Ugh, please make it stop and give people time back to work.
Purge 90% useless bosses that do nothing but take salary and torture hard working technical folks. This is what can bring Cisco to its glory days. Check back in 5 years!
I feel that the layers of management are like the CX org. Lots of PMs that feeds information upward, but does nothing else.
They don’t do nothing. They fill our calendars with worthless meetings.
Cisco can again be on growth trajectory if it can take bold actions to purge un-necessary fat and job safety of multiple layers of supervisions. A technical company, like Cisco doesn’t need non-technical “bosses” while strong technical workforce doing the real customers work, and they get no comfort and safety. In reality it should be the other way around with managers and directors feeling insecure based on what they bring to the table. Last ten years, becoming a manager is a dream role and safety net that Cisco has created. Managers can’t sc--w up as they do nothing, easy to replace delivery resources while focus is moving work to Mexico and India.
Same can be said for ICs. Most are one trick ponies, can't be left in front of customers or have any conversations at upper levels. 75% are overpaid whiners that should have been fired years ago. Considering where most "engineering" resides today you can depend on zero software quality, zero ability to communicate, and having to redo things 30x. Massively broken and it's not all management.
There would be more internal innovation in engineering.