Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

D9 Core - California and Nevada contract negotiations and layoffs

My opinion, here is a breakdown of what the final TA will look like which is similar to other recent signed contracts across the company. If the company deviates and wants to drag negotiations out past expiration then, expect a strike to happen. There maybe some variance in these numbers, probably not by much. D3 core will be negotiating this year too since, their contract expires in August 3, 2024.

  1. 4 year contract.
  2. 14% total raise over contract with the first year being 5% then 3% @ year.
  3. COLA, capped at up to 5% total amount including, the yearly raise.
  4. Healthcare cost will remain at 29% for pre 2025, 32% for post 2025 hires.
  5. Pension will remain for legacy employees.
  6. Retiree healthcare remains.
  7. Improved job security.
  8. Improved cash balance match.

Majority of the contract will stay the same. Small to no gains but nothing life changing, of course it will be advertised as a Big Win. Layoffs will continue, pre and post contract with some units slightly expanding, others contracting so, BAU.

Other opinions and suggestions for negotiations are welcome here.

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ROFL, that’s what Auto, UPS, Kaiser, Hollywood, School Systems, etc… thought. They found out real quick what happens when the worker bees are absent. Dream on replacing 15k skilled workers over night and thousands more in the SE. Want a fair contract to support our families like everyone else.

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Post ID: @2htu+1rsC7p14

Tick Tock , who cares. You’re overpaid and under skilled which is exactly why your union must settle for less and less each contract.

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Post ID: @2yrg+1rsC7p14

Tick Tock, another day closer! Have you purchased your climbing boots yet? All leather, 6 inch, with a 90 degree blocked heel and steel or composite toe depending on your task.

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Post ID: @2qjz+1rsC7p14

Here’s what I’ll remember- the Trump tarrifs that made everything MORE EXPENSIVE.
Don’t forget what the state of the union was in 2020 folks!
Great Depression era economy with bread lines and everything on back order. Businesses shuttered.

“If you don’t like Biden-flation remember that in Nov!

Otherwise, if you like HIGH inflation and want MORE of what the economy has now, you know who to vote for —- the guy that can’t remember what is even going on 1/2 the time!”

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Post ID: @2zul+1rsC7p14

Gotta stick up for that Local P in SD
The writing was on the wall about the service rep jobs for 10 years
When Comm Tech jobs moved out of same building to TX and GA
Was a totally different group of union bozos in charge
Then the building was sold off with 10 year lease
Lease expired, owners said OUT
Service Rep jobs moved to OC
But that P did land a CO job when none were available
Basically, when they came for the Comm Techs, no one cared
When they came for the service reps, all kind of cater wallin
Wait until they come for the C splicers.
Always parked at some C0 taking a nap

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Post ID: @2veo+1rsC7p14

Union employees celebrate their participation trophies like world championships.

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Post ID: @1bnk+1rsC7p14

Feel free to walk, literally no one cares, including customers. Bye….

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Post ID: @1cxj+1rsC7p14

It’s imperative for the company labor team to listen about a very real work stoppage, at the expiration of the contract, not going to negotiate forever like the last time. We are weary of going backwards, tick tock, not long now. They will have more pressure on them from many points…politicians, employees, customers, federal and state agencies, etc…

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Post ID: @1tnq+1rsC7p14

Bargained has been surplussed in massive numbers or not had positions backfilled for years now. Management has finally started to feel the consequences too, over last few years because Randall & Stankey ran out of runway by selling assets, spinning off companies, reducing or eliminating benefits, hiring freezes, increased responsibilities, longer hours, etc.. so now it’s layoffs via various ways, RTO, relocation, moving whole groups to another state, offshoring, contracting, rebadging, etc..

The fuzzy math wasn’t working anymore so the result is a reduction in all parts of the business and went from a Blue Chip to a Cow Chip. What a tu-d!

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Post ID: @1qmx+1rsC7p14

Manager tears will flow when the contract includes increased job security.

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Post ID: @1scc+1rsC7p14

@1hvp+1rsC7p14

Sorry, I stand corrected, meant ratings and raises. Thanks for correcting.

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Post ID: @1wes+1rsC7p14

Regarding: If the company wanted to be fair and transparent then, they would post the % of bonus for each rating but that isn’t the case, is it? Instead they go about it as a top secret exercise so their bias isn’t known across depts and managers.

I hate to bust your fantasy island bubble here, but the manager bonus % isn’t arbitrary. It goes like this:
L1=9% of annual salary x % of goals met as a group
L2=11%
L3=13-15% plus additional stock options

This year it was 122% so for a L2 it’s salary x 11% x 122%= total payout which was (for me and I’m low on my pay scale) 130k x 11% x 122% equals $17,446.

Nothing more to it but the conspiracy theories are fun to read.

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Post ID: @1hvp+1rsC7p14

Joe will show up at the picket line if there is a work stoppage but will he be aware of the situation? They had him pumped up with Red Bull or something stronger for the SOTU address because, he usually isn’t that energetic or coherent. Sad, elder abuse in my opinion, it’s obvious to all, how his abilities and awareness has deteriorated the last few years. Even his most ardent supporters are having a hard time to spin it anymore. One can only spin so many stumbles, gaffes, long pauses, mumblings and going the wrong direction. Worried if the US gets in a real conflict if he has the cognitive ability to deal with it or know which country to defend against. Joe is usually a nice guy but it’s time to retire and enjoy the grandkids.

Anyways hope the contract negotiations goes well for all parties and we can get on with life/work. It would be nice if they would sign a longer contract, it gets old having to do this every 3-4 years. A five year or longer contract would be nice for all, they can still have ongoing negotiations for anything else that needs addressing during that time.

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Post ID: @1grl+1rsC7p14
Most managers don’t ever see anything close to that!

Exactly. Managers need to wake up.

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Post ID: @1dwa+1rsC7p14

How the US goes, so goes the world, we are the largest market by far in the world and the reserve currency of the world. I’m only concerned how Joe has impacted my finance so, there is a pre Joe and a post Joe inflationary report you can look up yourself. Of course you are smart enough to know how much your fuel cost (stopping pipeline & new drilling), interest rates, housing, etc.. are at record inflationary levels with his policies. All pricing and markets revolves around energy cost. I’m all for alternative energy as the next person but the infrastructure and technology isn't there yet to mass scale because most aren’t cost efficient yet. Fission and fusion nuclear is still one of the most promising energy sources to scale for the future until then, the world is still reliant on dinosaur juice.

Nobody wants to buy an electric car that dies in the winter (Chicago) and strands them, are expensive to maintain (battery replacement), aren’t as long lasting and has to wait at one of the few charging stations for hours, waiting to refill the battery while on a trip. One also has to plan their route according to the few charging stations on the way. No thanks I’ll keep using dino juice until the alternatives have matured with the necessary infrastructure and cost efficiencies to use long term. Same goes for all the other alternatives.

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Post ID: @1hok+1rsC7p14

@svn+1rsC7p14 I'm a Democrat aka liberal. Please enlighten me as to how Biden impacted other country's inflation.

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Post ID: @1ijd+1rsC7p14

As a level 2 manager and my co-workers, support bargained getting a fair contract with better than normal raises due to inflation and keep all your benefits. It helps all of us below the c-suite, a lot of our benefits have been reduced or eliminated over the last few years.

I will continue to watch my training videos if a work stoppage happens. Not motivated at all if I need to work my designated assignment, more concerned if I’m going to be employed or have to make a relocation decision with all the changes happening. Good Luck!

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Post ID: @1iaa+1rsC7p14

The largest raise I remember (25+ years) receiving as a bargained employee is 3%, it usually averages 2.25-2.5% a year. So based on our annual base even if we received a 10% raise for one year it still wouldn’t match a manager’s total raise, base pay or bonus, so don’t go there. Bargained has been going backwards for years and not keeping up with inflation. Didn’t even get a decent bonus while endangering our “essential” lives during the pandemic while managers were allowed to WFH. I did receive an appreciation coin for working through Covid-19. I still haven’t figured out how I’m going to spend it yet and it isn’t special because even the WFH crowd that didn’t interact with the public, received one.

Bargained doesn’t get their fair share of a bonus because ours is based on the stock price. Prior to being bought by the Cowboys, our bonus usually averaged an extra 2 weeks pay and wasn’t tied to the stock price. 5% of 65k is a lot different than 5% of 130k, $3,250 vs $6,500. In addition most managers get a yearly bonus on top of their base, 11k+. and that number is based on who is the best sycophant or family member. It is why the company trolls start freaking out anytime managers post their ratings with % because it isn’t applied equally across the board with everything being the same. COBC violation is their ineffectual cry to stop it.

If the company wanted to be fair and transparent then, they would post the % of bonus for each rating but that isn’t the case, is it? Instead they go about it as a top secret exercise so their bias isn’t known across depts and managers.

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Post ID: @dwc+1rsC7p14

If you don’t like Biden-flation remember that in Nov!

Otherwise, if you like HIGH inflation and want MORE of what the economy has now, you know who to vote for —- the guy that can’t remember what is even going on 1/2 the time!

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Post ID: @svn+1rsC7p14

WOW!

“14% total raise over contract with the first year being 5% then 3% @ year”

Most managers don’t ever see anything close to that!

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Post ID: @gjx+1rsC7p14

D3 here, we need same but would like to add keeping a division of labor to the list. The company is continuing to try and combine titles and their scope of work for the same pay. Result is less workers, more overtime and larger areas of coverage, work/lifebalance will be much worse.

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Post ID: @kua+1rsC7p14

CWA and the company need to do better for their members & employees, the cost of living has risen substantially. Most employees aren’t able to afford living in California on these wages and employees in general have been going backwards in their standard of living. These past four years have been brutal with inflation and it isn’t getting any better, everything has gone up, especially in fuel cost, groceries, energy, housing, rent and interest rates. I can’t eat or fill my vehicle on the stock market rise, need a substantial wage increase.

Appreciative to have a job but my wages aren’t enough to support my modest lifestyle. I’m having to put more on my credit cards every month to make ends meets and cutting cost every where possible. Can’t afford the high prices of going out to eat but once a month. Worried about retirement too with the small amount the company contributes to my cash balance plan. If things don’t change soon, I’m going to be forced to start looking for employment elsewhere.

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Post ID: @ffj+1rsC7p14

Despite company advocates and their misinformed opinions, the Union has a lot of leverage this year for the following reasons. The company doesn’t want or need anymore bad press, a work stoppage would generate a lot of press, public scrutiny and political candidates visits.

  1. Election year and candidates are pro union.
  2. Successful work stoppage for many industries negotiating fair contracts over last couple of years.
  3. Recent mobility outage and the public backlash, work stoppage would greatly increase the chance of another outage happening.
  4. Feds are investigating the outage, a fine will ensue.
  5. CP isn’t motivated or ready for a sustained work stoppage.
  6. Loss of benefits and paying much higher cost each contract, time to claw back losses.
  7. Inflationary rise which has greatly affected living expenses and lifestyle.
  8. Public polls say majority of Americans are for unions.
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