They are creating chaos and instability. They do dirty things to cover their a*s. Remove them once and for all.
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There are many incompetent scrum masters, managers and product owners.
@1rrb here. I am referring to #1, the others are another story.
Specifically for CTO, I see no "product". A product to me, is something imagined and created to sell to customers. How is "compute" a product in that sense. Do you really need to to customer interview, "Yes, I would like my platform and available". I know this is a gross oversimplification, but you get the drift.
The PO is in place simply to babysit, ask technical team to explain things that go in one ear and out the other, report up to a grossly overpaid PM. The entire product structure in CTO is pointless, IMHO. As with Agile, WF has probably corrupted the original intent, to create all they care about CONTROL. Just CONTROL THIS and make me redundant, as soon please.
I'm referring to 1 and 2. Horrible attitude and experience dealing with them. My previous post was @1mhy+1sAvs0wu.
Follow up question for @1rrb+1sAvs0wu, @1hwq+1sAvs0wu and @1mhy+1sAvs0wu - We're going to need some clarification on your 'product owner' comments, please. Because we like to recycle these roles/names.
- We have product owners who are responsible for software products and maintain lifecycles, releases, software inventory and installations.
- We have Application Business Owners and Primary Technical Managers who are responsible for application IDs, maintaining internal controls; data classifications, meeting guidelines, installations, changes, etc. (once collectively assigned as a single 'App Manager').
- We also have Agile product owners who are responsible for the intake of requests and enhancements and the prioritization of tasks in JIRA. Sometimes known as a Program Manager and sometimes a member of the Digital Products team.
Now sometimes #2 and #3 above were the same person/job, but sometimes different people which can cause a conflict of interest because it is believed that non-technical people cannot lead a technical product, but that is a topic for another day.
So when you say 'product owner' who are you talking about?
Product owners in my experience are deadweight, overpaid bureaucrats. They are rude and act as if you are inconveniencing them for requiring them to do any work.
@1rrb+1sAvs0wu, I agree on useless Product Owners. There are some good ones, but I have seen many useless Product Owners who think they are above you.
COO managers are the worst.
I’d keep 5 tech managers for each useless tech product owner. Honestly, hire someone with vague skillset and no knowledge of their product. Genius!
The tech managers are not technical despite its name. They are facilitators. As the workers get displaced by Indian talent the facilitators are displaced as well.
When will the SF Bay Area hindy gangsters be removed?
a few did get displaced, one in St Louis, one was remote, and I have to look-up the location of the other one
They are not technical. They are just “manager”. In reality they are “gangster”.
tech managers