Starting to hear rumors that Liz is looking deep at non revenue impacting roles and seeing if headcount is necessary in those roles…shaping up to be an interesting time
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Liz is saving those managers and directors who are useless for CX and Cisco
Why not engineering managers and directors are hanging with no work and cutting high paycheck ? what the he-l is happening ? When some headcount is merged with IT from CX engineering why do they need these managers and directors ? is that mean the wherever they are merged are not capable to running and managing the teams. It is all filthy and pleasing those directors lick the ELT shoes
CX = Services BE, responsible for half of Cisco’s ARR. This should explain the value of CX
They saved mangers and directors from CX and moved them to safe haven
Engineering managers and directors of CX has no value. Cisco would have laid off. After all it is a filth
"We need Brad The Candy guy to post a directory listing again, of Dir and up with zero to a couple reports."
I do not think Brad will be posting anything now.
We need Brad The Candy guy to post a directory listing again, of Dir and up with zero to a couple reports.
Lot of cleansing needed 🧽. Managers and Directors have created safe zones for themselves and their chums. This isn’t going to be easy but could be done with some guts. One way is to purge every level 1, 2, 3 manager, reassess and rebuild. One time blood bath is better than continued regrouping, realignment and LRs. Hope someone is paying attention. Liz eats Puri and starts a new path of changes.
csco has been nothing but a shell game for the last 25 years. When they added the mexican and indian cartels to the mix, that cemented the spiral into place. As long as they continue to think those offshore toilets are what the customers will continue to pay for they will continue to see sales dive. It's getting ready to go from bad to worse in the next 2 qtrs. Kiss your bonus and stock awards bye unless you are a sr. director + too. That's coming to a manager near you to start easing into that message. ET&I, TTG, COE, whatever you called it - absolutely horrendous top to bottom over the years too and to reward someone for that incompetence is, well csco.
Liz is a terrible leader but a decent public speaker. She has no charisma and her track record is not good if you’re in the know. Cisco leaders seldom promote talents but rather their friends.
Well that just begs one question now doesn’t it? If you’re so offended why do you take the time to read the comments? Can’t stay away can you? You’re faux outrage is showing.
Can someone explain CX value to customers or shareholders? Grifters gonna grift.
Gone by September.
This site is garbage. An echo chamber for a vulgar rumor mill.
im for it if it means less mgmt layers.
Well, this ridiculously expensive acquisition isn’t going to pay for it self!
What a shortsighted approach. How is ‘revenue impacting’ even defined. Most roles support the company’s revenue goals, whether they be sales/service/other roles. Hatchet jobs like this end up either needing red badges to do, or ACTUAL direct revenue roles end up doing work they shouldn’t. Race to the bottom.
or get rid of full-time employees and replace with cheap contractors... it's called a "managed decline"
work for a company that can grow revenue without overpaying for acquisitions
It is a fire and replace strategy -- super simple.
Get rid of Americans, and replace them with people on another continent that "cost" 30% as much.
It doesn't matter if no one can understand what they are saying. It doesn't matter if they are difficult to work with. It doesn't matter if their quality of work is subpar.
They are cheaper.
You get what you pay for.
It's all corrupt!
Liz is the queen bee of the Telugu mafia. She always reminded me of Tina Turner in “Beyond The Thunderdome”. Telugu first, Indian next and whatever is left can be fought over by the rest of the minions. Unless you can barter with something that she likes…
there are too many directors reporting to directors - cx is too top heavy.
So, wouldn't this be OPEX again (same criteria as from the LR in Feb)?
'I think they should gut tac more, and any team that has only one manager needs two'
There seems to be some nervosity around DC area. They count the people andthe skills.
I’m losing hope. What’s changed so far? The same toxic useless VP’s are still around, the portfolio is a mess, team members are afraid, useless metrics are celebrated. You have an entire organization believing moving use case based AOV around a mythical race track is key to future revenue growth.
Liz should start by looking at herself. How much revenue has she ever bought in and how many of the acquisitions she made as the ET&I lead were successful integrations? She has no technical acumen and talks incessant total nonsense. “Quantum, AI, GenAI…” whatever the latest buzzwords are dominate her narrative without a shred of credibility.
I think they should gut tac more, and any team that has only one manager needs two.