Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

BEFORE EVERYONE FREAKS OUT ABOUT THE FINRA RULE (RTO/5D)

In Home Office Inspections wouldn't affect most of you. (link below)

"FINRA Rule 3110(c) requires that home offices or non-branch offices where an associated person engages in specified supervisory activities are treated as offices of supervisory jurisdiction (OSJs), and therefore required to be inspected annually."

From a FINRA perspective this wouldn't affect people who are outside of the FINRA scope. FINRAs many posts, articles and FAQs repeatedly call out people who are 'registered' with FINRA - so they would be subject to an in home office inspection scenario.

You would be exempt from FINRA registration if your roles is "Solely clerical and/or ministerial in nature". I read that to mean that if you work in (examples) Auto Loans or HR or Corp Risk then you don't need to register with FINRA and are not subject to a home office inspection.

https://www.finra.org/sites/default/files/external_apps/p019222.html#:~:text=Employees%20exempt%20from%20FINRA%20registration,participation%20(limited%20partners)%2C%20OR

HOWEVER, WF could use use this as a means to further their RTO agenda.

An example of overreach (in my opinion) is this - originally when WF started labelling people as 'regulated' users (subject to SEC oversight) it was a small group of broker-dealer and investment people, but then didn't they also expand their own definition of regulated users to be anyone that supported a regulated user? Last I heard that was all of WIM. Could all of WIM be subject to RTO/5D? Possibly, if it furthers the RTO objective, I see this as a real possibility.

But what about LOBs who are not supporting FINRA or SEC activities? Many of us don't want to RTO/5D and it seems unfair to subject us all to RTO/5D based on an obscure government oversight ruling that doesn't affect us at all.

How we feel is not important though. Remember that.

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Yes this mostly will affect WIM brokerage associates. It is about licensed, regulated employees. Has nothing to do with client facing or not. Reg 3310 replaces the existing Covid exemption from finra that has expired. For most nothing will change. For those that wfh from other locations other than your primary residence on file on the U4, that will end. No more working vacations maximizing pto & wfh days. It’s now prohibited and a fireable violation. If you are in your position less than 1 year you are required in office 5 days until you reach that mark. Managers are scrambling to meet with affected employees this week.

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Post ID: @2qqv+1sIB5NcN

Darn, I am going to have to hire a housekeeper

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Post ID: @2oyr+1sIB5NcN

@dsi+1sIB5NcN

I disagree. If all HY cared about was profits they would fully embrace WFH because it's a much much cheaper way to employ people. Our expense ratio would be much better without all these useless buildings where we overpay for EVERYTHING.

No, the purpose for RTO is simple, it's one step in a well coordinated process to divide/conquer and eliminate the existing domestic workforce one group at a time while maximizing voluntary attrition. Shart wants anyone that's been here more than a few years gone, and he wants that done as cheaply as possible. As a result, maximizing employee dissatisfaction is a major corporate objective. Employees that WFH are highly unlikely to quit, and therefore WFH is the enemy to HY.

F Shart.

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Post ID: @2iky+1sIB5NcN

I will be working from home in India from california.

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Post ID: @1owe+1sIB5NcN

FINRA is mostly for investment bankers, not for commercial bankers. Like those who are registered with CFA, Series 7 or series 63 licenses in WIM. Most of WF employees have nothing to do with those businesses.

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Post ID: @bys+1sIB5NcN

Traders are already expecting to go back 5 days. They fall under a different sort of scrutiny with FINRA. Many FAs have many remote offices that need to be inspected, but that number has grown greatly since COVID. We'll see if WiM embraces that or requests that more FAs come back in for more time. As for staff people, like me, that are registered but do not meet with clients, I do not expect to be told to come back in 5 days. Many registered people have worked remotely full time before Covid and their homes were never registered with FINRA and or needed to be visited by a QS.

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Post ID: @zjj+1sIB5NcN

Only impacts FO roles such as sales and trading that are likely already in office 5 days per week already. Simply means they won’t be able to work from their beach house on Fridays but as always there are workarounds for those situations.

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Post ID: @rdb+1sIB5NcN

@klv+1sIB5NcN, for the love of all things holy, please research what FINRA is and what falls under this rule.

FINRA does not regulate banks. FINRA regulates the Securities industry. And the rule applies only to individuals registered with FINRA. This is mostly going to effect people working in WIM and of those people only the subset of that group who is registered with FINRA. Because of the nature of their job (customer-facing) they are likely already working in a branch location 5 days a week.

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Post ID: @zaq+1sIB5NcN

Pretty good interpretation of the situation, OP and @epg, thanks for posting. Per usual usual on here, you can ignore the usual chicken littles just trying to spread their own misery and paranoia.

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Post ID: @hpu+1sIB5NcN

Most of you need to get it into your thick skulls this doesn’t apply to maybe 95% of the bank . Only those people registered and that deal with securities have to follow finra rules .

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Post ID: @epg+1sIB5NcN

This is an industry wide regulation not a wells rule. Starting June 1 they are going to start enforcing it. All firms must comply or face fines. The days of milking wfh & short office hours are over. Finra allowed for exceptions due to covid. Covid is over. Now they are dropping the hammer.

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Post ID: @klv+1sIB5NcN

Honestly I’m over it at this point. No amount of posturing, positioning, or arguing is going to do one bit of good if HY drops the hammer and says everyone has to go in five days. They don’t care about the cost of childcare, or the cost (or time) of commuting, or the fact that Wells Fargo (like much of corporate America) is ultimately a dead end and an aging dinosaur when it comes to building a career or maintaining a life with nonexistent cost of living pay increases. They only care about profit and enrichment of affluent shareholders and those in the executive suites. They could care less if we quit over us being tethered to an office and shackled to a desk five days a week. It only means more for them.

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