Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

I’ll second the Catherine Brightman comments. Literally the cruelest person I’ve ever worked with. No heart. No soul. No empathy. A cold, bitter, lonely woman who will trample over anyone to get herself upward

So where did the two comments about Catherine Brightman go?
Is pointing out how much of a horrible manager someone is now taboo; any comments like about someone in particular deleted?

I'll go on record as saying Catherine Brightman, AVP HR Technolgy, is the most over-rated, sn-t-nosed, SMU-MBA educated, shittiest manager at AT&T. Somebody was right, she's almost as arrogant as Stankey. Almost. She can't manage a kid's popsicle stand without sounding like a complete id--t. She embarrassed herself on HRM team calls continually and pi---d off so many people with her "know-it-all" attitude it should be criminal. No regard for people's lives she's adversely affected; doesn't give a sh*t.
For once in its miserable existence, AT&T needs to do the right thing and FIRE this horrible individual.

I heard Steve Jobs, Elan Musk, Google Exec and a host of other tech companies say the world needs less MBA's. At the end of the day the only person who thinks a MBA is a must is a person with an MBA. I have managed people my entire career and have not seen utter brilliance come from a person with a graduate degree.....quit the opposite. They are good at one thing ....passing classes and collect certificates! True!

Totally agree this guy is a tool. Anybody that would wright something so low class can be the sharpest kn--e in the drawer. If he is such a genious why is he working for corp America. Don't be such a tool!

Are you people seriously that ph--king d-mb that you write something and can’t even spell intelligence correctly? You have a degree, from what pathetic college? Good grief, I have never witnessed such poor grammar from college degrees personnel as I have on this website! Don’t you imbeciles even know how to use a spell checker? No wonder why this country is going to he-l in a hand basket! Degrees are given out like they’re available in vending machines! God help us all!

This guy sounds like a total looser! Probably lives in his mother's basement and has no friends. Total tool box!

The first thing they teach you in MBA school is to “kick someone’s azz” or “become somebody’s bttch”. Which one did you choose?

The Stink has an MBA......Manage By Arrogance!!!!

Clueless!! I started with this company as a tech and then an engineer before I got my MBA. Don’t lump everyone together under one umbrella. A company needs both technical and business people to succeed and believe it or not there are some people that fit both those descriptions.

Yeah, but we will never be rid of the Stink - Most Successful MBA Ever. He worked hard to breed that incompetence to become top CEO on the CEO Wall of Shame!

Are you people seriously that ph--king d-mb that you write something and can’t even spell intelligence correctly? You have a degree, from what pathetic college? Good grief, I have never witnessed such poor grammar from college degrees personnel as I have on this website! Don’t you imbeciles even know how to use a spell checker? No wonder why this country is going to he-l in a hand basket! Degrees are given out like they’re available in vending machines! God help us all!

Any degree is a poor representation of intelagence and hard work that is why most big >companies were built by none college grads.

“intelagence” “none college grads”
No wonder you knock the MBAs. You probably didn’t even finish high school.

Do you even know what a MBA is?

I have both a business and a computer science degree. I got both because both are valuable. Tossing everyone into a bucket is just stupid as sh-t.

Let me guess you have a business degree??? Very generic degree with not a lot of worth. Engineers will always be in demand. AI will take you business degree folks out within 5 years.

Computer science types mostly have no business knowledge or sense. It is so much better to have those with business degrees with technical skills who do understand many parts of the business as well as the overall picture. Given most computer science employees have no business knowledge it is very easy to outsource their jobs to India and you get more for your dollar.

Any degree is a poor representation of intelagence and hard work that is why most big companies were built by none college grads. I would hire a person who went to a computer bootcamp and actually learned a tangible skill anyday over a a MBA. They are good at one thing (book work). Kind of sad but true.

Technical and business savvy go hand in hand. You can be as technical as you want, but at the end of the day, we have to be profitable and financially healthy with sustained growth to succeed.

“They are obsessed with short term gains at the cost of long term sustainability”.

You won’t find a truer statement about the current AT&T business model as a whole.

“Fire CS graduate too, they can be replaced by AI”

We will see how this pans out, and it’s ironic this comment is always made by development naive people and BA’s and rarely made by technical folk.

But we will see.
:)

I suspect it will play out a lot like how companies have tried to offload all their development work to India 30 times in the past 30 years just to see them bring it back state-side. There’s a reason why just a couple years ago stateside skilled developers were regularly commanding salaries of $200k+.

These things are cyclical, US tech always has been, it’s the cycle of:
“It’s over!”
“We’re back!”

Much like finance and markets.

I would wait to see how it plays out once the fed lowers interest rates again, and to see if AI continues to advance or hits scaling issues (as I suspect it will since current models in use have consumed all of the data of the internet already).

Basically, talk to me in 2-5 years.

Fire CS graduate too, they can be replaced by AI

I am college educated (computer science degree) and also think MBA’s and those in HR are useless, so it isn’t just ‘union folk’.

Companies run by technical people tend to excel, companies run by BA people tend to decline due to their obsessions with short term profits.

Technical people care about products, results, performance, metrics, client experience, making ‘something cool to make people smile’, ‘something great to make people’s lives easier’.
BA people care about the appearance of all of these things but only the appearance. They don’t care about the end product if it means more cost.
They are obsessed with short term gains at the cost of long term sustainability.

We are not the same.

If you are going to be a sycophant for a rich guy, maybe learn his name. You could also stop thinking anyone else cares what he thinks.

The problem is the DEI, EEO, minority, black, mescan, nepotism hire.
Not the MBA.

Signed,
WASP with a Finance MBA who worked for all of the above EXCEPT "the MBA hire".

Sounds like you have a specific gripe about a specific individual or individuals who do happen to be college educated with a post grad degree in business administration. Perhaps you could shed some light on what you’re really complaining about since business admin is a very broad field covering HR, Accounting, Statistics, Marketing, Analytics to name a few.

The only person that thinks a MBA is useful is a person with an MBA. Elan Musk said they are completely useless. He said he does not care if you have a degree he cares can you pass his interview. I would also say if MBA's were the gold standard then why was the entire computer industry built by people who didn't even go to college. That's a real head scratcher....