Someone was laid off after discovering that a known account manager engaged in activities that violated the business code of conduct . The LR’ed person reported this to the legal department, but apparently, it was not pursued further, and instead, that person was laid off. Are such cases known? Would it make sense to bring this up to ethics or are they useless?
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If several of you were laid off due to reporting violations, and you can group together, show a consist pattern of corporate abuse and hostile workplace per the corporate business code of conduct - then maybe you could investigate a class action lawsuit.
LRd folks can not take part in class action lawsuit, if you signed a waiver to get your separation pay. I don't know anyone not signing a waiver...
People who go to HR paint themselves as whiny trouble makers.
If several of you were laid off due to reporting violations, and you can group together, show a consist pattern of corporate abuse and hostile workplace per the corporate business code of conduct - then maybe you could investigate a class action lawsuit. Under law employees of any major corporation have legal rights and yes, companies will often violate those rights. Learn the rights to help protect yourself. And, be aware that even going a legal route to hold a company accountable may not result in your favor.
Toxic and bullying management? Sounds like BS and you need to be gone for a lack of ba--s.
The same in Poland.. Me - reported twice sr.management, LR'ed twice in 8months.
Once I created a very heavy HR case, that included svp. Nothing ever happened to those and then later I see them posting career success stories.
Many engineers are complaing about toxic and bulling managemet(Poland, Lisbon), they got LR'ed.
https://www.courthousenews.com/ninth-circuit-revives-suit-accusing-cisco-of-aiding-and-abetting-torture-in-china/
Annual COBC is a must obligation to cover their own butt. It's so that if they end up in court on the hook for a $100m payout, because the guilt party is claiming "nobody told me!! -- then they can drag out all the training showing that you knew, and they aren't responsible.
It's also part of Sarbanes-Oxley and ESG.
Yes i complained about an exec and was LR’d. However it went beyond Cisco. Due to a GDPR check there is lots of evidence of the exec reacting, targeting and abusing me, emails even have HR acknowledging a suspicion of targeting. Cutting a long story short, a couple of out of court settlements, potential criminal action and still Cisco sit with their head in the sand. The whole thing was absurd. I don’t know what Cisco got out of it. The hypocrisy of CR and FK with respect to ethics is outrageous. Such a violation of trust. If I could I would be happy to post the internal Cisco emails here for you all to judge.
Annual COBC is a must obligation to catch small fish who must be compliant and not make Cisco expose to being on TV news.
Ethics and HR is strictly to support management and can, and often do force out employees. This is from my personal experiences so don’t fool around with HR policies. Collect your proof and gather evidence before fighting the system.
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Optics, a compliance farce in case they catch you
Same optics that made us pull out of Russia and not Israel
Welcome to the corporate world
As long as the lights stay on no one cares
Bribes, b!tches and bs
Don't take part
Don't snitch
Cisco is a H0ar use it have your fun then move on to the wife
Two questions, what’s the point of signing The Code of Business conduct? If you’re a manager, are you not obligated to report harassment due to a potential future personal liability?
“Report anything to ethics and they will unleash a "HR Consultant" who will do her best to try and bully you in submission“
This was my experience in the US too. I was part of a group of people that reported a Sr level employee for bullying and harassment. I was bullied by the HR consultant. I backed out and said everything was fine.
The group that reported it was LRd as well as the sr employee all of us were LRd.
The only way Cisco takes care of its employees is giving nice severance. They don’t support employees any further than that. It’s a cr-ppy, toxic workplace.
HR is LR. Wise up brother. They are not here for you.
If you don't stay late to listen your boss's bul-s--t, you got ticket to be LR'd.
in street lingo: snitches get stitches.
in Cisco lingo: snitches get LR'ed.
just keep your freaking mouth shut.
Cisco and ethics don't go together.
You should see some markets
Local AMs are often treated a little too well by some partners absolutely unethical
Open secret
No one cares however they should
You are not a crusader there are no ethics in Cisco just pretty PowerPoints and a veneer for investors
Take no part, stay clean
See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil
I also reported someone and was LR’d.
"Should everyone reporting someone be immune to lay-offs?"
Not if you are working for a company with useless HR and corrupted management.
Yes, I reported a violation of business code of conduct by a director level, I had solid evidence that I included in my report to HR but a short time after that I got laid off. HR is there to protect management and Cisco. Never trust HR.
Should everyone reporting someone be immune to lay-offs?
they are useless. take the LR money and have a vacation. i reported someone too and got LR-ed.