Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

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They announced layoffs in Nov 2022. Those layoffs kept happening company wide since May 2023. They claimed this was part of the the same LR announced in Nov 2023. Then, few months later, they announced LR again after Q4 and laid people off. That went around the company till Nov 2023. Then they announced LRs again. And that is now apparently to continue throughout calendar year 2024. In the mean while they can and will announce additional layoffs in Q4 for not meeting the numbers. In essence, the employees are living in continual high stress environment under threat if LRs since Nov 2022. This is because no one is actually sure any more when one wave of LR stops and another one starts. Europe watches layoffs happening in the U.S. and braces itself for the coming chop in the next couple of months. And no one actually works any more, they update their CVs and start to look for jobs.

This is SO demoralising and demotivating! This entire culture is hurting the company beyond comprehension . It’s not possible that the ELT so stupid that they don’t get it. Forcing employees to continually live under the threat of taking their livelihood away can never give a positive outcome. It’s a toxic, out of control, downward spiral.

Cisco ELT, regional VPs and SEDs have written the obituary of Cisco already. All for their own selfish career goals, RSUs , tone deafness to pleas of employees and no concern nor respect for the company or their teams.

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“ Indeed. Now completely out of the game after many years, and feel like a completely different, and much mentally healthier, person. Took several years to fully realize how much the stress affected me. ”

YEP. I’ve been gone 4 months after getting laid off and I can’t believe how night and day it is. I took a pay cut in my new job and hey I’m exponentially happier and healthier. Like a huge weight lifted.

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Post ID: @flnb+1saCtz6t

Shitco shitems it is

Geoffrey Moore ki-led it into believing that Cisco had crossed the chasm just when the chasm was being formed right in front it it

It’s still oblivious & will never 👎 recover

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Post ID: @8alh+1saCtz6t

+1
Announce LR. Lay-off people in the US immediately. Europe knows it’s coming and people start getting stressed, looking for jobs, stop working and go into panic mode which continues for the next couple of months. The whole company freezes and does the minimum. Couple of months later U.K. lays off. Then some weeks after other countries in Europe lay off. By this time its next quarterly results and they announce LR again. Then the vicious cycle continues and nobody knows which LR they are in any more. They just know they may get laid off, get stressed, unsure of what the future holds. This nonsensical perpetual restructuring is happening since Nov 2022.

On top of that Cisco UK is the best place to work, 2024. Go figure! More like the best place for your career to get fekked.

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Post ID: @6pap+1saCtz6t

Splunk will be the straw on the camel's back. Why chucky boy thought that was a good idea and that employees would rejoice is pure stupidity. You had the chance to buy the place almost 3 years ago, spent TONS of resource time helping develop their product, then you stiff the cisco employees and stock holders. Splunk will make the SA acquisition look like a shear genius move when it's done. Repeat 3com 4 times fast and it sounds like cisco. The result coming will be the same.

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Post ID: @2uga+1saCtz6t

They will fire you for talking about exactly this.

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Post ID: @2mmg+1saCtz6t
The blog was published the same day that Cisco UK laid off a whole bunch of people.

The cart was only slightly before the horse.

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Post ID: @1nee+1saCtz6t

Pardon me, but do you have any Grey Poupon?

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Post ID: @1iod+1saCtz6t

@1spi+1saCtz6t

"The Americans won't understand your sarcasm"

No. Mo--ns won't... and they come from everywhere.

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Post ID: @1lch+1saCtz6t

@1qax+1saCtz6t
The Americans won't understand your sarcasm

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Post ID: @1spi+1saCtz6t

Not sure what the OP is on about. Cisco UK has been elected the Best Place to Work 2024. Don't believe me? Read the blog: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/secure-your-spring-chintan-patel-nezyf/

The blog was published the same day that Cisco UK laid off a whole bunch of people. So, what stress when we have leadership as empathetic as this!

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Post ID: @1qax+1saCtz6t

The constant musical chairs in terms of strategy makes Cisco impossible to understand, even for employees. Everything we’ve said is about to be upturned by Splunk. Splunk will be the new shiny toy and forget about everything else.

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Post ID: @1yqz+1saCtz6t

Please leave. You are bringing zero value to the org.

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Post ID: @tre+1saCtz6t

When I got laid off, my manager told me he had nothing to do with it and that it was a very bad decision. He said that he can't fight for me because then they will just tell him that they will lay him off instead of me, so he told me that we should just act professionally and accept it. Just sad...

I found a new job the same day, so I will manage just fine.

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Post ID: @xjc+1saCtz6t

For every passionate employee they need to understand there is no line of talent waiting to fill the void

So true leadership needs to realise
Google, Aws, Nvidia, juniper, even partners pay more to take less nonsense

This is not the NFL, no next man up.
The best place to work accolades papers over the cracks

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Post ID: @obq+1saCtz6t

This is the new way and culture within. Keep employees under kn--e and they will perform. Even directors display a mafia culture where talent is just a number and senior leaders hold on to their jobs. Much different from 25 years ago when Cisco was an industry giant.

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Post ID: @xaz+1saCtz6t

The dinosaurs at the top still think it's 2008
That Cisco is a pillar of technology and the best talent is attracted (neither is true)

For every passionate employee they need to understand there is no line of talent waiting to fill the void

They still think customers will pay Cisco like it they pay their rent on a recurring basis for barely any facetime with the OEM

Get off your ivory towers and actually come on the ground

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Post ID: @gcl+1saCtz6t

So I think spot on comments here. All Cisco is, is a money juggernaut that buys companies and people stick around a bit then leave. People who are there try to make sense of it but ultimately most acquisitions fail.

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Post ID: @zoc+1saCtz6t

The mass exodus prophesized every quarter never happened during the past 23 years of this. Cisco is a retirement community and guaranteeing lifetime employment in a market where no one else does will attract even weaker employees.

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Post ID: @bkf+1saCtz6t

Indeed. Now completely out of the game after many years, and feel like a completely different, and much mentally healthier, person. Took several years to fully realize how much the stress affected me. Thankful for the money, but much, if not most, of my energy spent at Cisco was ultimately donated to the irrational pursuit of my own money at the expense of my own mental well being.

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Post ID: @zfc+1saCtz6t

Cisco just isn't relevant to any businesses anymore. You rarely hear the name until earnings call comes around. Nobody wants to buy routing and switching when they can go straight to market via cloud. When they dumped their own offering, the so-called "InterCloud", that's when the writing was really on the wall.

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