They're coming!!! LL6 and supervisors have the names.
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Try to buy a television or stereo equipment from an American company. They don't exist anymore. They used to. The engineering and manufacturing were here. Then, the corporate big wigs figured out how much they could save and pocket by having work done overseas.
Ford is going to end up with manufacturing in the US and the vast majority of white collar roles in low cost countries.
Our economy is rigged by crony capitalism. The labor market for American engineers is distorted by the indiscriminate importation of foreigners taking any wage they can get just to escape their homeland.
If American companies want to try moving engineering to LCCs, let them try. There really hasn’t been anything to stop them since the dawn of the internet age in the mid 1990s. 30 years.
If we continue to demand wages that exceed those of low cost countries, then we can't be surprised when the BoD and investors insist that our jobs be off shored. That's how capitalism works. If you oppose capitalism then you're a communist or RINO.
Just to state it again, LL6s haven't been told the names of the people they will lose.
I have people skills; I am good at dealing with people. Can't you understand that? What the he-l is wrong with you people?
Boston consulting set up algorithms to pick people to cut. I knew a few LL5’s. Cuts came from director level.
I was impacted in June 2023 layoffs. After half decade in Ford, I can only say that my layoff was not based on performance. I was promoted in 2022 , in 2021 I received a top performer in appraisal. Every year I consistently did great work, received great appraisals and yet got laid off. Why did I get laid off ? I still do not know. My team consisted of 7 engineers and 1 supervisor . 6 engineers and my supervisor got laid off
The engineer who was retained was moved to another organization. Honestly all the engineers in my team were great in their work, nobody had poor performance. Several other teams in my organization faced same fate. Few teams were retained , rest got axed . Why did this happen ? All I can say is that they got a person to head our organization from another company 6 months prior. He decided that we were no longer needed. I will not share the name of my organization due to privacy. It's rough feeling to know that you are just a number to someone who has no idea of the clue you brought in. I do not wish this on anyone. If layoffs do happen , please remember, there is light at the end of tunnel. Though the job market is extremely tough, I did get an opportunity with competitor oem. Good luck to everyone
One can see below the brilliance of Ford that there is none. People are removed/saved not based on merit/competence but who one knows and how much BS one can push. This is why Ford never improves with their same good ol' boy philosophy.
Also interesting how LL6's are always saved even those low on the competence list who don't even know the employee's underneath. LL5's are even further removed.
- Pension
- Age
- wage
I began with Ford in the 1990, spun off into Visteon, ACH and then back to Ford at the end of my career. Somehow, I never got that final pat on the shoulder and lead to talk with HR, box in hand.
Supervisors are asked periodically to force rank their reports. In times of potential layoffs, they are asked to update their lists. The managers then have input and at this point it is in HR hands.
HR will change the lists according to whatever criteria they have in place at that time.
I have seen stellar employees lay off and substandard ones remain. Over the years some of my previous supervisors told me that the lists they submitted were changed.
In those years when I sat at my desk waiting for the "last shoulder pat", I kind of felt that it is just the luck of the draw.
I am kind of agreeing with the opinion of @1ckc+1sefHKkQ. In the past, LL6 or LL5 ranked employees under them, and passing the ranks to upper managements. Upper management may adjust those ranks bases on their opinions/favoritism. When the layoffs come, the HR/Execute draw a line, and most people under the line were cut. Even LL6/LL5 "may" not know exactly which person will get the kn--e. They knew the ranking of employees under them, and have pretty good idea who will get cut.
In the last few round of layoffs, the persons who got the knifes are much "random" and are difficult to explain. Possible explanation is Boston consultant played more roles in the layoffs. We saw some very good, high performers got the kn--e.
My experience there's a whole lot of favoritism and 98% of the time merit/ability is never a factor. The main factors are if a person has Pension, is over 55, wage to high and if you have an opinion. If the LL6 doesn't like a person the LL6 is not business orientated but emotional and employee is removed.
LL5, LL6 have no idea what people actually accomplish, capabilities... and are given a filtered or skewed definition from the supervisor.
It must be true. F-150 guy has been predicting layoffs for each week during the past few months. Eventually he may be right.
The LL6 sets up the list who will be removed. Usually the LL6 favors certain employee's who BS him/her or kiss their a## and most of the time not based on merit or education.
As an LL6, I can tell you that at most, we know the ranking of our team that we passed on to our LL5. But from prior experience, that often means little. When the layoffs happen, I’ve seen poor performers saved on my team while better people are let go on others and vice versa. We are often baffled by the decisions and are stuck trying to explain what happened to our teams. This is so frustrating at Ford. In prior jobs, when layoffs happened, I always felt my opinion mattered and while I didn’t like it, at least I could explain things… like it was obvious some role was redundant or the person was the lowest performer or they had wanted a package.
So basically, the OP is full of cr-p. We LL6s know almost nothing when these things happen.
In the past neither LL6 nor LL5s knew what was coming. It was managed by LL4s and above. No credibility to this post.
If u knew what u were talking about, LL6's ARE Supervisors. BS alert!
To this poster .. why don’t you go play in traffic ?
Correct LL6s have no clue. Anyway, enjoy your weekend. Nothing is happening next week.
I can tell this is B.S. In the last couple of layoffs, LL6s didn’t know who they were going to lose.
Such an informative post.
Cite your source or go pound sand.