Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Sr Managers calling themselves as leaders in LinkedIn

Is a Sr Manager is a leadership role, then what are the roles sr director and above?
Sr Manager is entry-level manager role and not a leadership role.
For that matter, anyone can call himself as a leader irrespective of his title.

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@3chz+1sgUdncU
Loading paper into a tray lol good old Cisco lizard 🦎
Bgp, CLI and am EOL are probably the only things you know
Stay in the 2000s boomer

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Post ID: @pmxp+1sgUdncU
Sad truth is dinosaurs in leadership positions still think it's the 90s...

So you're complaining about someone complaining about leadership by complaining about leadership. Cisco needs far deeper layoffs.

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Post ID: @5tgg+1sgUdncU

People leaders are leaders

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Post ID: @5erg+1sgUdncU

@1ehn+1sgUdncU my friend from your statement you lack empathy which I am not uncertain most managerial courses say is a key pillar

Secondly you must be up for an Early Retirement you sound like you are at the age where printers were still a thing and putting Microsoft word was a good thing on your CV

Lastly technology and sales motions evolve at a vast faster rate than 'leaders' if you think time served is a metric for competency then innovation is lost on you. Sad truth is dinosaurs in leadership positions still think it's the 90s the share price is undervalued and the competition is none

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Post ID: @4yze+1sgUdncU
You obviously have zero knowledge of management and how to perform such work.

Sadly the same must be said for much of Cisco's management. For the time I worked at Cisco nightly builds failed for months at a time, many projects overran by a factor of a dozen or more in time and in budget many times more by significantly expanding the teams during "debugging" which ate the vast majority of the development budget company wide. The only metric I ever heard management use were KLOCs and bugs "fixed" per week. The Dilbert cartoon about writing oneself a minivan was real and management ACTIVELY encouraged people to exploit these metrics because green dashboards under a manager meant the manager got a bonus. Only those with no experience at a competent company would honestly call this good management.

Your ad hominem attack with statements you couldn't possibly know shows you have no argument to make.

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Post ID: @3ksi+1sgUdncU

@1ehn+1sgUdncU 4 whole years? Wow, that much knowledge and experience should get you $40k and a night shift job. You obviously have zero knowledge of management and how to perform such work. Actually, anything outside of shoving paper on a printer probably escapes you and you work in the center. Either way, a professional lightweight in the experience department.

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Post ID: @3chz+1sgUdncU

I'm good enough, and smart enough; and gosh darn it...people like me!

  • Stewart Smalley
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Post ID: @3gml+1sgUdncU

Who cares. Manage your own career and how you market it on LinkedIn.

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Post ID: @3hqm+1sgUdncU

Innovation cultures do not have a caste system.

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Post ID: @2sbd+1sgUdncU
For that matter, anyone can call himself as a leader irrespective of his title.

The answer is obviously "yes." The first result from "define leadership" on Google is:

the action of leading a group of people or an organization.

Take a junior high school course in software development and you'll learn about functional decomposition. Different layers hold responsibility for certain features which may be delegated to others. The same goes for people at the top of each delegation in an organization, noting it's arguably easier to lead people to failure than success.

Good companies know what talent they have and how to use it, and when branching into new business areas know how to manage even Engineer 1s with real skills to lead not just development efforts but to grow whole teams of people with much higher level titles.

Cisco has a lot of young talent that tells management well in advance where a project is going to hit the iceberg and sink and how to avoid it, but without the right title, degree, school and ethnicity most are ignored by management because management does not understand what talent is available to them and how to best use that talent. Without continuously taking on new and different efforts people have been complacent in making the same mistakes at every level for generations, mistaking that for "experience."

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Post ID: @1vkx+1sgUdncU

Managers calling themselves leaders

Equivalent to chihuahuas calling themselves wolves

Been in the business 4y

Managers don't know their subordinates names often or their life
Often they don't know the technology to position
Their strategy is often spray and pray with zero support to their workforce

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Post ID: @1ehn+1sgUdncU

Dated a girl who said Raj Chopra who came to Cisco from a startup is and was an absolute nightmare and facade.
What has Shaila accomplished in her 3 years? If we have had only but layoffs and acquisitions and no growth, what has she accomplished? Can anyone please let us know her top 3 accomplishments ?

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Post ID: @1cah+1sgUdncU

But remember Fran has ensured those senior managers are all diverse and hence perfect for those roles.

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Post ID: @1xzu+1sgUdncU

They are leaders in deciding the right powerpoint font. That is all that is required.

Send me your deck slides and I will combine your slides into my deck and take credit for your contribution.

Conform,

Senior Manager

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Post ID: @hgc+1sgUdncU

Everyone is Cisco loves calling themselves leaders yet this is just for visibility on LinkedIn or some poor requirement souls mistake them for having ability

96 percent of them just sit there looking at reports and say I am short give me 1m more

Zero coaching or strategy just useless people

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