I have been at Honeywell for just over 14 years. When I joined you had to be of a reasonably high standard and have a degree or experience from institutions of good standing. It was a solid engineering job. Today I witness the employment of barely qualified personnel from unknown institutions or with meagre experience or aptitude. It is genuinely shocking the quality of work I see today, it makes my job close to impossible. Have we dropped the bar so low, my first few years were great and then I saw a gradual decline which I put down to being a global trend as corporates got increasingly greedier but around 6 years ago we really began scraping the barrel. On my latest project every discipline I work with has almost at a high school level of competence and that is being generous, time has come and I am resigning next week.
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Consider HON's approach to compensation and benefits, it's hardly a wonder that the solid technical candidates find career homes at other companies. Reminds me of an old Dilbert cartoon:
Boss: "We only hire the best of the best!"
Dilbert: "Question: don't we base pay on the industry average?"
Boss: "Right. We like them bright but clueless."
I totally agree, the quality and intelligence level of employees for the last fifteen years is appaling. Time to get back to hiring the propeller heads like HON used to hire. HON is in serious trouble with our current work force. Somethings gotta give!
The diminishing group of functional employees are now tasked with mentoring the dregs that HR dragged in.
The bar has been lowered to admit all manner of failures, lacking in motivation, talent or communication skills,
The HR fanboy touting how bright and independent the crop of new hires is at that location is full of s…. Can easily spot the BS since if he has 40 yrs experience HW would have laid him off 15 years ago for earning too much / being too old.
The philosophy of quantity over quality does not work in a specialty like turbo machinery design. HW is not alone dealing with a shortage of experienced personnel to mentor those with no experience, but their reputation will keep them from fixing it. Where I’m at they are rehiring pensioners providing good incentives to do so.
Agree.. 12 years ago when I joined it was still quite OK company. Around 2018 everything accelerated to honeyHELL. Now we have company that destroyed most R&D, that poisoned suppliers, that lost many customers and feq guys on top are still talking about growth on every townhall.
My experience is aero specifically at the mil sites clearwater, Minneapolis, norcross.
Strong new crop.
Only the mediocrity and the stooge thrive in the cesspool today.
@tch+1sn1r5kh Good advice but a competitor has an open door for me as soon as I am ready. @lfc+1sn1r5kh Thanks, the new offer is significantly better, it just required relocation but since my kid left for college I am free to go so timing is great!
@iry+1sn1r5kh where? I haven't seen any real strong youth in a long time. They're too glued to their phones to get real work done. Post rona era is back to baby sitting 90% of them.
Good luck to you OP. Leaving hon was a good choice for me, way more money, better benefits. Had some great colleagues I sure miss tho.
@iry+1sn1r5kh Haha...you have lucked out then! I agree with OP we've had dreadful quality of applicants in the last few years, there is some great talent out there but it seems they steer well clear of Honeywell. Unqualified/poor management does not help.
It's not an age thing either, this is across the board.
Some niches of Aero (really the best part of the business) are still valuable and make a great stepping stone though.
Not what i see.
New hires at my aero location are the brightest and most independent i have seen in 40 yrs of engineering.
I recommend you find another job before you resign.