Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

RTO: I worked a few days in the office starting between 2am and 6am for a project implementation.

I was questioned on not being in the office because my badge swipe was not recorded. I didn't leave the building and come back during the day. I only left when time to go home. Anyone else have issues with the reporting system showing badge swipes in that hour range?

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“ Wrong , badge swipes are recorded whenever and where lever they occur. Thats always been the case for security purposes.
If this were true, this thread would not exist, so you are a m0r0n. The report does not count swipes 24/7, it only looks during certain time intervals. The security system and the RTO tracking report are NOT the same thing, Einstein.”

Actually you are wrong nimrod. The badge swipes are recording all the time as evidenced by employees who work weekend and overnight hours also being monitored to ensure they are reporting. As for security , the badge swipes allow them to know who has been in the building in the event their is some issue. You have zero knowledge of what you speak. Badge swipes are recorded whenever and where ever they occur, Ethernet and wifi are pinged hourly.

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Post ID: @2viu+1swXP9yJ
Wrong , badge swipes are recorded whenever and where lever they occur. Thats always been the case for security purposes.

If this were true, this thread would not exist, so you are a m0r0n. The report does not count swipes 24/7, it only looks during certain time intervals. The security system and the RTO tracking report are NOT the same thing, Einstein.

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Post ID: @2jno+1swXP9yJ
“Thanks, now I know how long I can draw a check when I get another job without going into the office. A bit over a month, thanks.”

Lol exactly, I’ll be sure to put my 2 weeks in after 3 weeks of no office attendance to collect those last 2-3 paychecks…rofl

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Post ID: @2wph+1swXP9yJ

"In other words, it's fake news to read that reports can't tell what building you badged into!"

100% true--- BUT

We are talking about Prescence reporting and not whether or not it can be determined who badged into where at any given time (which you are 100% correct on).

The Prescence report does not discriminate as to "where" you badge. I know, because I have tested and proven the theory.

Which isn't really even a "theory", as in the training video that was left on SharePoint unrestricted for all to see, the developer doing the training clearly stated the same (badge swipe = compliance, no mechanism in place to confirm "where").

So unless there have been some very recent enhancements, that's the way it is.

I suspect some of you "announced" you were badging in somewhere different than your assigned location, and then subsequently dealt with the fallout from that.

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Post ID: @2cwu+1swXP9yJ

"I use the badge id system routinely (SAMS), it's a centralized CRE system for all T buildings. As a supervisor, you select the building(s) and doors within each building you want to give access to. Every 6 months I get an email to confirm required access for each ee I manage. I can also pull reports anytime showing an ee's history of access by building and door, all time and date stamped. Anyone would be naïve to think that this basic information is not available- and used. And of course, HR gets these feeds for their reporting systems. In other words, it's fake news to read that reports can't tell what building you badged into! "

I don't know anyone said they don't know where you badged. The report isn't tied to that though. Maybe the report is different for some groups but I've gone to all 3 ATL offices and had no issues with the report. My Director checks it religiously and calls us immediately if something is wrong.

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Post ID: @2zwj+1swXP9yJ

I use the badge id system routinely (SAMS), it's a centralized CRE system for all T buildings. As a supervisor, you select the building(s) and doors within each building you want to give access to. Every 6 months I get an email to confirm required access for each ee I manage. I can also pull reports anytime showing an ee's history of access by building and door, all time and date stamped. Anyone would be naïve to think that this basic information is not available- and used. And of course, HR gets these feeds for their reporting systems. In other words, it's fake news to read that reports can't tell what building you badged into!

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Post ID: @2yhx+1swXP9yJ

I show up around noon. It counts the door chip at that time.

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Post ID: @2sir+1swXP9yJ
“Incredible lie. If you don’t badge at your designation for three weeks, HR calls your boss. Another week, they call for next line. Another week, you are fired. If you are designated in Atlanta and badge at Dallas 3 days instead of Atlanta for 3 weeks, you go on their radar.”

Thanks, now I know how long I can draw a check when I get another job without going into the office.

A bit over a month, thanks.

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Post ID: @2sqj+1swXP9yJ


Lie.
I have the official documentation that went out to supervisors.
It says, very clearly, the presence report does not differentiate between assigned location and badged location.
If you’re assigned to Dallas, and badge into Atlanta it will show you as attending Dallas.“

Incredible lie. If you don’t badge at your designation for three weeks, HR calls your boss. Another week, they call for next line. Another week, you are fired. If you are designated in Atlanta and badge at Dallas 3 days instead of Atlanta for 3 weeks, you go on their radar.

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Post ID: @2zkt+1swXP9yJ

“ The badge swipes are only monitored during certain time periods. I don't know what those time intervals are, but it behooves you to swipe as often as possible to avoid getting missed.”

Wrong , badge swipes are recorded whenever and where lever they occur. Thats always been the case for security purposes.

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Post ID: @1fza+1swXP9yJ
“I rejected RTO and move to hub and they are sending reports that I don’t comply with the policy because I don’t come to the office. I’m getting threats that I may loose my job because of it. Are they nuts? Double layoff?”

I mean, if you get fired for cause you’ll lose your severance and next years bonus.
If you already said you aren’t going to move you might as well tough it out til they lay you off so you get both.

If you’re not worried about the severance or bonus, then he-l yeah, stick it to the man.

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Post ID: @1wzs+1swXP9yJ

I rejected RTO and move to hub and they are sending reports that I don’t comply with the policy because I don’t come to the office. I’m getting threats that I may loose my job because of it. Are they nuts? Double layoff?

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Post ID: @1iqo+1swXP9yJ

I just run around and badge everywhere I can before I leave.
If they try to argue with me I’ll just be like “yeah I dunno why it didn’t get me in the morning when I totally got here, but look at all those badge swipes, I was super busy around the office”

I badge the door when I come in, I badge the intake door when I leave, I badge the door at the garage, if I’m bored I’ll badge the other back door that takes a different card, I’ll badge this building, I’ll badge the other building, I badge just to badge, I’m getting paid to badge.

I’m the badger.
🦡

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Post ID: @1bqh+1swXP9yJ

The badge swipes are only monitored during certain time periods. I don't know what those time intervals are, but it behooves you to swipe as often as possible to avoid getting missed.

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Post ID: @1nui+1swXP9yJ

“ Lie.
I have the official documentation that went out to supervisors.
It says, very clearly, the presence report does not differentiate between assigned location and badged location.”

Then why did I get reprimanded? I checked in Peachtree to meet a coworker and I’m assigned to Alpharetta. My presence report got flagged and I was told I had to report to Alpharetta 3x and that the Peachtree visit didn’t count.

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Post ID: @1rny+1swXP9yJ

"That’s only four hours. A workday is eight hours."

Hey genius, read this slowly, comprehend it, then apologize for your mistake:

"I worked a few days in the office >>>>starting between<<<< 2am and 6am for a project implementation. "

For adults who can read, that's not 4 hours. It's an unknown number of hours because the only thing we know is that the CLOCK IN occurred between 2am and 6am.

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Post ID: @1skn+1swXP9yJ

AT&T is planning to offer a new service to its business customers. They will offer RTO tracking, it's a great product, should bring in big revenue stream. Go AT&T!

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Post ID: @1egy+1swXP9yJ
“The only office that counts is the one listed in webphone as your designated office. If you were working some place else, then you will get flagged. At least in our team.”

Lie.
I have the official documentation that went out to supervisors.
It says, very clearly, the presence report does not differentiate between assigned location and badged location.
If you’re assigned to Dallas, and badge into Atlanta it will show you as attending Dallas.

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Post ID: @1vef+1swXP9yJ

“The only office that counts is the one listed in webphone as your designated office. If you were working some place else, then you will get flagged. At least in our team.”

This is not true. The report can’t differentiate location. If you’ve been told that they are more than likely lying to you

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Post ID: @1qmi+1swXP9yJ

The only office that counts is the one listed in webphone as your designated office. If you were working some place else, then you will get flagged. At least in our team.

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Post ID: @1pmi+1swXP9yJ
“I’d be curious where you were. I’ve swiped at all 3 Atlanta offices before 6 am since I get up really early and have never had any issues with my status on the report”

Stankey made me relocate to the 7th circle of He-l.

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Post ID: @1zxu+1swXP9yJ

I’d be curious where you were. I’ve swiped at all 3 Atlanta offices before 6 am since I get up really early and have never had any issues with my status on the report

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Post ID: @1xvw+1swXP9yJ

My telecom company does the same shiiteyy stuff. They only log the swiped badges between certain common hours (like 8 AM to 9:30 AM). So if you show up after 9:30AM to the office, you are not counted as being in the office. And my company has a policy of flex hours, but they are looking at who is coming into the office and who is not so they can prioritize who from the teams should be laid-off. This is wrong in just so many ways. But if there is a lawsuit, then the company has badge-in records to prove it. Many companies are doing this to not have to pay unemployment benefits, healthcare, and severance. They are even asking some people to relocate to different state if they want to keep the job. Looks like a lot of USA companies are in trouble and can't meet the Q2 (second quarter) earnings numbers that wall street is going to look for. Especially those companies that don't have enough cash in their hands. This just reminds me of the day when my parents had a job, they had unions to protect them. Perhaps we should all think about unionizing since the labor laws in USA stink.

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Post ID: @1jon+1swXP9yJ
“Take a selfie with a clock in the background everyday. So you have proof you were there.”

This is a prime opportunity to be hilarious and passive aggressive.

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Post ID: @1zsk+1swXP9yJ

Take a selfie with a clock in the background everyday. So you have proof you were there.

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Post ID: @1sns+1swXP9yJ

I haven’t heard of- badge reader that only records swipes during certain hours. Sounds fishy.

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Post ID: @1vuy+1swXP9yJ

The system is flawed. My whole group was on the “bad” list. They change the turnstile Bryce have tenants in our building. The new system didn’t show any swipes and everyone had also logged into the LAN. But, according to the list no one showed up the whole week. One person did take pics showing she was there so she had proof. This is ridiculous. Just fire folks to reduce headcount instead of micromanaging.

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Post ID: @1sit+1swXP9yJ
“ATT focuses on busting employees for RTO now vs. making money.”

This, the company is trying to pivot into being a nanny instead of making money by selling a service.

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Post ID: @udo+1swXP9yJ

ATT focuses on busting employees for RTO now vs. making money.

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Post ID: @bze+1swXP9yJ

You can always take a picture or a video with your cell phone, for extra proof. It’s time stamped, send it daily to whomever is questioning your whereabouts so they can get the issue corrected. Anyone can say they are badging but physically evidence, wins the day.

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Post ID: @iaw+1swXP9yJ

I swear I was here working. It was just when nobody else was around.

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Post ID: @lax+1swXP9yJ

I like to chip the door at 2 a.m. on my way home from the bar also.

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Post ID: @fbe+1swXP9yJ

That’s only four hours. A workday is eight hours.

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Post ID: @hfe+1swXP9yJ

I manually log into the office printer once per day to throw some added evidence for my workplace harassment case.

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Post ID: @skb+1swXP9yJ

No worries.

Just tell them to pull the Desktop Report System (DRS) . It will show where and when you logged in that day and when you logged out of your PC.

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Post ID: @bho+1swXP9yJ

Sure you were. I like your thinking though.

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