Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

@23cy i am former Dell employee and well, they force 5 days RTO like ATT some exceptions exist if you are extremely far away from the office, however, all managers must be present all the time, plus neverending layoffs, hiring freezes too boost stock

ATT employees fight each other over open seating.

@23cd how? That still stands today.

ohh boy, this aged like a milk

Have they offshored any executive jobs yet? Pennies on the dollar in India, good for the company, remember nobody is safe.

Most of the top tier employees are working for others already. Only the low tiers are crying

Hey everyone, I found the crybaby-bumper. Come read her comments.

Thanks Karen for the help. Crybaby awareness is important (to you). lol

It’s showing that why AT&T is a a bad company because too many cry babies working for AT&T. Too many losers in the company.

So stop being a crybaby and go work for Dell then.

I was not asked to and did get assigned TW, and was supposed to go in 3 times a week

ah, the "my life is much better now" brand of thelayoff fiction.
less annoying than other tolls.
but i'd just ask that you get the facts right.
TW are 1-5 days a MONTH.
its the poor saps who didn't get TW who go in 3 days a week.

You gotta fight
For your right
To not RTO.

Nice of the “classy” employee to be so pure and judgmental.

I think sometimes you just gotta call them out.

T is filled with classy adults for employees. Takes very little to see T’s finest go full throttle with the name calling. My how did you even get these jobs in the first place?

This is like apples vs oranges. There is and never has been promotion opportunities within AT&T, LMFAO.

The dilemma is that hardworking individuals and overachievers already understand that their performance level is not tied to promotions. Meanwhile, those with the right connections can achieve lateral moves based not on merit but on social status. At least this ensures the company has the option to retain top talent. Meanwhile, in an RTO scenario, guess will stay and who will choose to leave

“The ol’ saying…

You can want in one hand and sh-t it the other to see which one fills up first…”

I’m not a Stanley fan at all but is life really that bad for you? Are you scrounging for coins in your cushions for your next meal.

The ole saying…

Walk a mile in another’s shoes…

“ So you must be the id10t! You think you’re so smart with your small brain thinking. The point is that I want AT&T to be a great place to work and for them to treat their employees with a level of respect so we can maintain and bring in qualified and passionate new employees. With comments like yours, you are not in the group.”

The ol’ saying…

You can want in one hand and sh-t it the other to see which one fills up first…

@1add+1t7lWEE1

_ It's kind of like the walking dead. _

+1 on this, I could have written that post. I had to think "did I post something that I now can't remember?" You know, old and senile as we retirees are.

“Why don’t you go work for Dell then if you have the qualification”

So you must be the id10t! You think you’re so smart with your small brain thinking. The point is that I want AT&T to be a great place to work and for them to treat their employees with a level of respect so we can maintain and bring in qualified and passionate new employees. With comments like yours, you are not in the group.

It would have been nice if ATT would have given the employees that option. I imagine the culture survey would have been more positive.

I'm IN a hub and there are no promotion opportunities. Well, in India I guess there are but I haven't seen any of our claimed executives work out there either.

"Clearly another thing our management never thought about when the chose not to grandfather benefits like a GOOD company would have."

I think you answered your own question. It seems like they never think through anything. It was almost like they looked at Comcast buying NBC and thought "we can do that with a media company also" not thinking how the landscape has changed. And of course, we have idi0ts like Stinky thinking he knows more about media than anyone.

I’d choose remote under those conditions. I’m not in a hub so there’s no promotions or job changes for me anyways. Sounds like a win.

That quickly changed to be even be more restrictive than the company policy as he eliminated "hubs" his people could even report to.. When Legg talks, Legg lies.

And then at a later town hall, he made fun of things people have said about him like "when his lips are moving, he's lying". Another executive who can't remember what he says from day to day because he's just Stinky's puppet. What more do you expect from a political science person in charge of technology. That's the leadership we have at T... they need to purge all of them.

I think that there are a lot of people who are waiting it out so that they will get severance. It's kind of like the walking dead. People want to leave, and won't be really upset if they get surplused, but they are just waiting around for the ax to fall. I can't say that I really blame them. T created this culture, so many people are just trying to take advantage of it.

And I can't blame them either. T definitely created this culture and this situation. When they took away retirement benefits to try to entice older workers to leave, the ones who didn't qualify are now in a "wait it out situation" and want something to leave. They aren't getting their benefits back so the only situation is to wait for either a package or retirement. Clearly another thing our management never thought about when the chose not to grandfather benefits like a GOOD company would have.

Legg told everyone on his first 2023 town hall that the company was considering ending the promotion track for people unless they lived in Dallas.

Legg also said at same meeting that nobody would be forced to move. All job consolidation would happen via attrition. When a remote worker retired, then the job would be moved to a hub.

That quickly changed to be even be more restrictive than the company policy as he eliminated "hubs" his people could even report to.. When Legg talks, Legg lies.

Heck anyone that’s been here for a bit already knows there aren’t any promotion opportunities. I’d take that deal. They aren’t going to promote me anyways. RTO has been a total waste of time. Coming up on almost a year, time to re-evaluate.

Legg told everyone on his first 2023 town hall that the company was considering ending the promotion track for people unless they lived in Dallas. I remember people around me feeling ok with it but disappointed. Then they had the employee survey in April. Then May changed everything with the whole move-across-the-country-or-else happened.

I think the company abandoned the promote thing, because they knew they couldn’t enforce it. For example, HR was promoting non hub people in 2023 on a thin promise that the person would move. No control.

All of this has smelled like fear of loss in power. Sure budget panics have happened, but budgets are man made estimates to meet cash flow. The bottom line is, leadership realized in the past that it can’t control the workforce. The new generations are less loyal than current ones and the company will never control them unless they can see them on Att property. None of this has anything to do with pensioners or costs. It’s all about control of the new generations. Chain them to a desk. The rest of us are collateral damage.

People were given a choice between their time and the company’s money and it looks like a lot valued their time more. Good for them.

Maybe Dell, AT&T and the rest will see that more and people see these jobs as jobs, not their entire lives, and will adjust accordingly but I doubt it. These execs all think what they do is THE most important thing on earth when most of the time it really isn’t.

Shoot. More than half employees would sign up for remote: most of us have up on promotions and stuck where we are. Management rarely promotes tech positions and if you’re good AND can find something else in the company your manager makes it impossible for you to leave

"T employees are too weak to walk away and find a new career. "

I think that there are a lot of people who are waiting it out so that they will get severance. It's kind of like the walking dead. People want to leave, and won't be really upset if they get surplused, but they are just waiting around for the ax to fall. I can't say that I really blame them. T created this culture, so many people are just trying to take advantage of it.

From a personal perspective, I decided that I didn't want to be among the walking dead. There was no way that I was going to relocate. I was not asked to and did get assigned TW, and was supposed to go in 3 times a week. But even that was pretty hard, given the driving distance involved. I decided to leave and am very happy that I did. Hanging around waiting for severance is pretty demoralizing, and oddly stressful. Life is much better now.

Wish T would have allowed a choice similar to Dell’s to remain WFH. I would have really appreciated the opportunity.

Any chance they’ll do something like that ?

It would be too late for me… off payroll 7/9.
Good luck to all

These execs have to wake up to the reality that nobody wants to waste time and money commuting to an office where nobody actually has ANY productive interactions, but they wont!

RTO is here to stay!

Why don’t you go work for Dell then if you have the qualification

Hey Id10t,

Per the OP, Dell employees were not put in a position where they had to walk. They were give a choice which would inhibit potential promotion if they chose remote work. That would have worked for many of the whiners you referred to.

T needs to shed over 55,000 employees at a minimum,

Isn’t upper management technically in violation of the workplace harassment policy by bullying the employees??

T employees are too weak to walk away and find a new career. The whining here is all you need to see to know what type of spine they have.