Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

@upk+1tE3JRZ4, Do you really think that all these interconnected people will step on each other’s toes? See, for example, in EMEA how all the GMs, VPs, et al., are intertwined. No matter how incompetent one of these leeches is, their “contacts” will surely save them—while ICs are laid off and their families are thrown into massive problems.

ELT and HR please wake up and lay off those mgmt leaders that dont have direct reports or less than 4. How one can justify a Director position with no work in some groups. Cisco stock is not moving up because of non-working filthy Directors taking big bite adding to OPEX and reducing the profit. Let us take an example that Cisco fires 1000 Directors and Mangers. See the annual savings
1000X300,000 (avg salary) = 300M
With Splunk merger easily another 200 = 0.5M can be supplemented :)
HR and ELT please look into and get rid off the sc-m, save Cisco !!!

This was posted recently, it's nothing new. The article misses the mark by coming up with a bunch of technical nit-picks as the "things to do", what we need is vision. We need to build something from scratch that we own, or get into something so early and before everyone else that it looks like we own it, like we did ethernet in the 90's, but that's hard and also requires some luck.

It's all very sad for those of us still here. May of us are athletes and we're only being asked to run the local 5k for charity instead of running in the olympics because our team manager lacks optimism and belief in us

Does anyone, anyplace understand Cisco licences? To take an example, wireless unit might understand their's in complete and utter isolation from any other BU. UC might understand theirs, again, in complete and total isolation from any other BU. Same DC.
Same FSO. Same SD-Wan. Security there are dozens of different schemes and systems. Our customers and account teams have to try and understand ALL. It is just not credible or feasible to continue like this. My customers complain to me. I try to raise this and no one is interested and I am seen as trouble causer. The company is lost in its own self-grandeur and hubris. It is all going to crash down soon, mark my words.

There isn't anyone that still works for Cisco that could even attempt to solve those issues. All of the actual talent left years ago.

The current leadership is milking shareholders for as long as they're able until the Board finally does what it needed to do a long time ago - hire a technical CEO that understands customers' business needs and that will cut through all of the ridiculous profit-draining overhead across Cisco.

Chuck has one foot out the door. Gary is not the guy that can fix Cisco. Right now, the company is driving itself over a cliff while pretending all is well.

Old glory is the perfect description
Managers and directors fully believe it is 2002 refuse to wake up to the reality of how competitive it is now
The share price tells you all you need to know
Pray splunk doesn't break or we will be in the 30s

I was once so motivated and excited to work at Cisco but the company has evolved into a confusing mess and jumble of disparate products and platforms with only a very poor quality standard as the common thread. I have no idea what the company’s mission is any longer. It’s very sad actually to see this happening to a once mighty and respected company.

This article is spot on, a lot of the points are reasons why I left last year.

Poor business decisions, and no technical leadership with the company all too concerned with celebrating itself, with over complicated jargon, and competing products all the while with a licensing system which takes more time to manage and maintain than the actual systems are the key points from this that resonated with me.

Great article, and it hits the nail on the head. To me, this looks like a “mission impossible.” The cancer of politics and corruption has already spread its metastases into almost all business units and organizations, making it impossible to heal this once glorious and respected company. The middle and upper management are squeezing Cisco as much as possible before retirement, leaving the mess for the younger generation to clean up. Not to mention all the families thrown into crisis by these constant layoffs. This behavior from management should be investigated by the justice for breach of fiduciary duty.

Cisco is a lost cause. Nothing will be fixed. If anyone in Cisco dares to bring up a problem, this person is going to be told by the management that “Cisco has no problem. You are the problem”. Let’s keep the friends and family program going and don’t rock the boat.

There’s no hope without change at the top. The captain drove the Titanic into the iceberg, not the crew.

Spinoff everything. Let Cisco become a holding company.

Well, all ELT knows and if they fix then many ELTs have to go home. In Cisco, they are having big time party with filthy package. They have no interest to fix the things and please investors. There are so many Directors and Sr. Mangers sitting without work. Attend 1 or 2 meetings as mundane activity and back to their domestic pick up, drop off, classes etc. As long as no accountability this will continue. Cisco has become the lethargic government organization

What a great read!

Hey Scott - you reading ?

Really well written and worth the read. But will it fall on deaf ears?

This is a great writeup!

How the ELT and Chuck and Scott have lied to us over years is incredibly concerning