Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Working vs Non-Working Notice Period: Who decides?

Who determines if a soon-to-be displaced employee is to on working- or non-working-status during their Notice Period? 1st-level manager, manager +1, some coin-flipper in HR?

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Post ID: @OP+1tPRW15h

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@2cma+1tPRW15

I'm sure production goes down a tick, but the company is holding the employee's severance over them. Sure, that's not much motivation for noobs, but for long timers it definitely is enough to keep them plugging away for a month+.

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Post ID: @3shg+1tPRW15h

Imagine employees that know they're getting let go soon, handling all of that personal information.

Who cares about performance in their last 60 days.

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Post ID: @2byk+1tPRW15h

It used to be 30 days working, 30 days non-working and in some cases years ago it would all be non-working if you were in a position where it might not be a good idea to keep you around.

As far as I know it's all non-working now. WTF kind of productivity you going to get out of somebody who knows they're out the door.

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Post ID: @2cma+1tPRW15h

Historically, US forms have working notice. Consider it a blessing when it is non working.

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Post ID: @1kuj+1tPRW15h

In our group it depends on how quick we can transfer our job to one or several Indian counterparts. They get to decide if you work or not during your 60 day! Last t*rd this toxic dump threw at us after leaving.

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Post ID: @1ypm+1tPRW15h

Every single person (many people) I've known to be displaced in Tech, LS or not, got a meeting invite for a first-thing meeting either the night before of the day of. You get the displacement news via a short scripted phone call, your access is cut off in about 2-3 hours. Then you rejoice and thank God you're away from the toxic mess.

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Post ID: @1ydw+1tPRW15h

Every LS displacement of my close friends in tech so far have been non-working 60 day notice.

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Post ID: @1seg+1tPRW15h

default is non-working for standard "efficiency" layoffs. manager has to make a case to have it changed to working, partial or fully.

location strategy related are different - generally working notice.

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Post ID: @1mqx+1tPRW15h

In our group we get an informal notice 6+ months out, and a formal working notice at 60. We've never actually worked all 60, but sometimes it's close (40-50).

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Post ID: @sje+1tPRW15h

Vast majority of displacements in CIB are no-notice with 60-day non-working. But I have seen a number of retirements where the individual has had to work some of those 60 days.

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Post ID: @nbt+1tPRW15h

OC+1

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Post ID: @ske+1tPRW15h

BISO order under Tami was notified Thursday. 30 people from Directors down to analysts, both remote and in core locations.

We all still have access until next month.

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Post ID: @fkq+1tPRW15h

Why would it matter who determines it?

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Post ID: @olq+1tPRW15h

It used to vary, but it’s now standard. The day after your notice is the first day of your 60 day non-working notice. Some people will get a heads-up it’s coming (for example, as soon as a manager finds out their employee is on a list, I’ve known many to tell the employee it’s coming (even if just in a few days) so they aren’t caught off-guard, but it’s not their “official notice” until they’re told that it’s that it last day of working.

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