If you complain that “my boss is always asking me to get my training done”, or “input my time correctly” or “you don’t answer your phone or email promptly”.
It’s YOU! You are a headache so you will be laid off.
No boss wants a pain in the A$$ working for them.
Do you smile and clap at Stankey employee calls? when he gets a haircut or eats wings?
Do you create a lot of multi-colored PowerPoint charts?
Do you say we are a great company in employee surveys?
Are you hesitant / afraid to look anywhere else for a job because you are comfortable?
If you answered yes to 3 or more, you will not be on a list....
“ I’m picking the guy I can’t get a hold of. The guy that misses meetings. The guy that causes people to call ME about his project status, because he doesn’t answer his emails or phone .
Obviously never a manager
“ ^^^^ This is a disgruntled “top performer” ^^^^”
^^^^^This a disgruntled “ low performer”^^^😂
It’s only factors: age and how much you make. HR’s prioritized list and it has a minimum number of hc to go. Execs can appeal w/ reasons and need to provide a replacement hc to go. Race / gender can also come into play so as to not lower EEO ratios.
L3 Not in a hub; Will be part of wave 3. Planning to opt out/collect severance and not move. In parallel with wave 3 which will occur sooner than expected, TW positions will also be impacted in 1Q2025. The goal is to bring down the numbers to around 100K at whatever cost - between RTO & surplus rounds.
And yes, your L2/L3 supervisor definitely knows and has a say on who is part of surplus & TW. It comes down to BU budget & strong justification to keep the employee.
There are two lists. One your AD let’s you know about where they tell you how valuable you are. The second list is the sh-t list they send up the chain that you don’t know about. All this time they’ve been su-king up to L3and L4 discussing how to improve process and reduce costs. Don’t be fooled your AD will sell you up the river in a heartbeat to keep their plush position of forwarding out emails saying “FYI…..”
L4 asks the L3 to come up with the list based on a target %
L3 picks people who he does not like. Yes, very subjective. L4 approves and shares the list with HR for EEOC review to avoid lawsuits.
Layoff workflow is invoked based on dates the company has dictated.
HR reviews your last 3 annual performance reports, ranks you, fires the lowest performance average.
Ha no. Your boss is sent a spreadsheet to rank, they rank people they are too lazy to fire at the bottom and if your chain of command agrees, you gone.
“Anyone who tells you it’s anything but who you know is simply delusional. It is absolutely not based on merit…..”
^^^^ This is a disgruntled “top performer” ^^^^
From what I have seen on the Moblity management side over the last decade, it has largely been below average that are shown the door. Your A and D or Amplify or whatever the heck it’s called now may have said something different. But when it comes time to provide a name , I’m not picking a top performer that makes me look good, and makes my job easier. I’m picking the guy I can’t get a hold of. The guy that misses meetings. The guy that causes people to call ME about his project status, because he doesn’t answer his emails or phone calls.
Thing is, most of those types are already gone. Getting harder to pick someone.
There are some orgs that have no ADs. So L2 layoffs are determined by input from their L3 (Director) and L4 (AVP). The L5 (VP) ultimately decides which of the resources to cut based on the target number they need to reach using the recommendations by L4. Promotions and ratings work the same.
Anyone who tells you it’s anything but who you know is simply delusional. It is absolutely not based on merit…..
“Presence reports are now part of the decision.”
So you’re saying if I don’t RTO I can just get laid off and collect severance?
Nice.
Thanks man.
Ask your supervisor
Presence reports are now part of the decision.
Lots of misinformation here already.
If you are management, say an L2, and you report to a L2 AD, who reports to a L3 director...that AD and that L3 are the ones that are signing off on who from their team is getting the walking papers.
The L4 and L5 don't know anyone from anyone below the L3. They are not arbitrarily selecting those L2's themselves.
When your AD delivers the news, they will read the provided script. You will undoubtedly ask , "why me"? Their response will indicate that they had nothing to do with the selection. That is 100% pure and utter BS.
Now, if your AD and/or L3 is on the chopping block, and there are also layoffs at your level ...I guess all bets are off at that point. But I have not seen that scenario play out yet.
Your immediate level two has a lot more input than they will admit.
AVP usually distributes the task to Director level, to deal with L2's and lower. AD's used to directly choose, but in 2024, Directors were given the task. Presumably because AD's will be decimated this year.
For level 2, I believe it’s level 5 that determines the list based on some input from level 4 and sometimes level 3. Level 5 also has a say in what a level 2 should get for ratings as well as whether you have a chance at promotions. Your immediate boss can advocate for you all they want but it’s ultimately 1-2 levels above your boss that calls all the shots.
Nice story, but your fictional nonsense doesn't belong here! This is how corporate America works, it's the MO and have witnessed this for years on end! Nothing has changed, men will be men and women will do what's necessary to move a-head in the business world!
Some clerk or secretary that feels like you dissed her in the past.
Sometimes it a 3rd level or higher who wants your job for a mistress or family member.
I had a few person experiences with promotions.
One in particular was a married VP in St Louis had a 1st level mistress who wanted the VP to divorce his wife & started threatening to inform the wife. The VP convinces her to move to DLLS for a promotion to 2nd level job - the same job that I interviewed for and won. She moves, a week later she is promoted because her skills (bedroom BJ's) outskill me. She could be found daily in her cubicle, reading the DLLS MORN NEWS, Drinking coffee, looking out the window at the Mobil Horse across the street. She wound up marrying a 1st line a cubicle over and the VP's wife never found out.