Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

District 9 Contract

They're trying to freeze their severance pay at 120 weeks. Brutal.

by
| 1678 views | | 24 replies (last ) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+1tWS2Rqw

24 replies (most recent on top)

“ They're trying to freeze their severance pay at 120 weeks. ”

Again, read the fine print around sick time, medical cost, vacation and job security. Severance pay is the least disturbing concession the union has negotiated. It’s all down hill from here.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @4rse+1tWS2Rqw

I’m voting No, without retroactive wage increase. It’s the companies way to cheat us out of nearly 6 months wage increase by the time it’s ratified. Pi-s on them, they are the ones who wouldn’t bargain in good faith. All the companies early proposals were just, takeaways and refusals on all of the union’s proposals.

At least D3 has the ba--s to not wait, contract expired and company is trying their same BS. The Union has now filed papers for an Unfair Labor Action. They went out within two weeks of contract expiration during 2019 negotiations and I don’t expect it to be any different this time. After the upcoming ULP strike and no company movement, expect a real Strike.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1lls+1tWS2Rqw

Some new Mercedes Sprinter work vans would be nice. I’d feel better knowing I’m not driving a red tagged van held together with duct tape.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1pvu+1tWS2Rqw

I’m Curios did they get wfh or hybrid in the contract?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1lyp+1tWS2Rqw

Just vote YES and move on.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1rwz+1tWS2Rqw
Union slugs will not be happy until they get 15 years and a new Mercedes

I just want the 15 years. You can keep the overpriced garbage Mercedes.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1wjf+1tWS2Rqw
25% over 4 years

No it's 14.25% over 4 years with no COLA and no retroactive pay.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1mas+1tWS2Rqw

D9 TA agreement summary

  1. 25% over 4 years, minor work rule improvements to appendix E, added double time starting at 54hrs, reduced forced OT from 14 to 12. Pretty much everything else is no change, med has 2 lower premiums, high deductible options. Not much here but a lot of drama, kept status quo.
by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1uwl+1tWS2Rqw

I'll take my 2 years severance when the time comes.
You should now understand how much the good people you work for value you when you don't have a contract. Trying to tear others down will not build yourself up, no matter how special you believe yourself to be.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1myu+1tWS2Rqw

Sacrificed grievance strike for my. Brothers and Sisters and did everything 9421 wanted for a great Contract . 9421 can go fu-k them selfish a-s mother fu----s all of 9421. All 9421 cares about is the MST core what ever you call them….one job a day or 5 person techs on one job techs. Driving big O $200,000 trucks taking advantage of home dispatch wasting gas and milking company time sitting driving home and most of all always …mother fu-ken complaining about work and also kissing a-s to manages to hide behind 9421 fu-ken weak babies but they do get the best contract ever

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1gwt+1tWS2Rqw

Once again, sycophants try to distract from leadership’s compensation packages, trying to gaslight. The elite are always asking employees from middle managers down, to sacrifice while they have no reductions and keep getting increased compensation every year. For bargained severance, it’s an incriminating number based on years of service just like the managers. Why don’t you company sycophants turn your vitriol to the real thugs, c-suite management who changed all the severance policies for middle and lower management due to leadership’s disastrous decisions. There are extremely few bargained, that ever see those max numbers and it only happens when the company wants to eliminate positions like, the few operators left. Termination (higher) pay is different than voluntary (lower) severance.There is a lot of posturing on here. Severance is a company insurance policy against lawsuits, the employee has to sign off when taken.

All upper management has a “golden parachute” compensation package, if they are suddenly “retired” or have “moved on for better opportunities”. Most could retire on their packages so, just one or two of their “retired” compensation packages would pay for all the bargained employees that even get an opportunity for severance. I’ve been here nearly 30 years and few bargained even get close to a full severance. The company’s usual move for bargained, is to move the work, knowing a large number won’t follow the work, been happening for decades. If that doesn’t work, they resort to layoffs, reorgs, harassment and create a toxic work environment to get employees to quit. Managers have recently just started to feel it too, with waves of relocations and RTO to far away offices. Now, it’s only the elite c-suite that are special and the rest have become human capital/expense and data points on a power point.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @ddz+1tWS2Rqw

“No more 49 hour rule ?
Oh wait!
That only effects techs parked in tower trucks 10 hours a day
And don’t get me started on DEG.
They like CO’s where there is a good restaurant near by.
No SLC? No PG? The litespan? No problem”

What’s a tower truck?

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @htw+1tWS2Rqw

Mine is 2 years after 31 years. 3 more to go.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @yyl+1tWS2Rqw

No more 49 hour rule ?
Oh wait!
That only effects techs parked in tower trucks 10 hours a day
And don’t get me started on DEG.
They like CO’s where there is a good restaurant near by.
No SLC? No PG? The litespan? No problem

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @fxs+1tWS2Rqw

Take half of the CEO’s AND top salary and offer five years pay and benefits for everyone that wants to leave. The company can send their seasoned employees off with a smile, and ship the whole kit and kaboodle overseas like you want to. Once you “the company “ ship everything out, those of us who still have at& t phone and internet service can switch their service to another company, and/or cut the cord from the tv.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @wbh+1tWS2Rqw

""They will find something for you to do rather than pay this sum.:

Yep. That's the point. Gold standard job security."

Nope, it'll simply be work that gets outsourced going forward instead of hiring new employees.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @xep+1tWS2Rqw

2 years and 4 1/2 months of severance is not enough? Union slugs will not be happy until they get 15 years and a new Mercedes

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @xlt+1tWS2Rqw

"They will find something for you to do rather than pay this sum.:

Yep. That's the point. Gold standard job security.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @vqh+1tWS2Rqw

D9’s old contract was 60 weeks at 21 years of service with 4 weeks severance added for every year beyond 21. If you had 35 years and were let go involuntarily you could get 120 weeks any more time than that would be more. Remember we let go starting at the bottom and not the top. Also remember the company will not pay this. They will find something for you to do rather than pay this sum.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @ghy+1tWS2Rqw

2 years is insane. I think 43,500 minutes would be reasonable

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @gak+1tWS2Rqw

2 years and 4 1/2 months of severance is brutal?

Most other unionized phone companies, outside of California, were capped at 52, which was reduced to 26 for salaried AT&T employees.

That much severance is excessive and unsustainable in nearly any industry. The downside is it pushes companies to outsource or hire temps a lot more than additonal employees.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @csk+1tWS2Rqw

120 weeks? salary employees get 6 months max.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @fic+1tWS2Rqw

Should be 24 weeks max.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @qrc+1tWS2Rqw

The 2 years of severance that reportedly some contracts had was outrageous and not sustainable. 4 months is reasonable to keep someone afloat while they look for a new job.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @wmr+1tWS2Rqw

Post a reply

: