Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

The inanity of location strategy

I can't be the only one being driven slowly insane by the dissonance between location strategy being used as rationale for the largest layoffs I've ever seen in my time here, and managers at the same time cheerleading the value of working together in person. Are they really expecting rank and file workers to get excited about a strategy that's also being dangled as a guillotine over their heads.

You want to strongarm people back into the office, fine. I'm not personally a fan, but as long as they keep signing the checks I'll jump through the hoops. But it seems downright dystopian to also use the strategy to drive layoffs, AND expect people to get invested in this as the future of the business.

Its honestly the most muddled, conflicted, plain stupid leadership messaging I've ever seen in 20+ years in the corporate world.

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Charlie cares more about bleaching his a-hole than any employee.

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Post ID: @2sgj+1tYwhjc9

@1req+1tYwhjc9. Not too far from reality but actually worse. In my building the lot is pretty full early. I often have to go in a bit later bc I might have early calls. But by like 2 or 3 the floor is nearly empty. I’ve seen people come in at like 9 and then leave at noon or 1.

Another person mentioned being on teams calls and one of the people is in the next cube over. Happens on my team.

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Post ID: @2iju+1tYwhjc9

WF in 2018: sure, work from home, saves the company money.

Us in 2018: ok, makes sense

WF in 2020: scary cold, keep working from home

Us in 2020: ok, makes sense

WF in 2022: you must report to Building A or you're fireeeeed!

Us in 2022: wth? "Return"? F, what a waste of time. Well, I need a job, so sc--w it, I'll go in.

WF in 2024: you are fired for NOT being in Building B!

Us in 2024: da fuq? You told me I had to go to Building A? This is d-mb, can I relocate to Building B on my own or something?

WF still in 2024: no, request denied. You have 30 mins to get out of the building we forced you to go to before we decided to fire you for being there.

It has never been about location.

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Post ID: @2cdh+1tYwhjc9

The best part is when I have one coworker in the office with me but we still meet in Teams because other people aren’t here. So the two of us sit next to each other but never actually talk in person. Good times!

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Post ID: @2zid+1tYwhjc9

Wells Fargo wanted to become a global corporation, CONGRATS YOU DID IT! Now everyone is spread out across the globe or across the US, minimally. Therefore when you go into the office you can’t meet together now unless video/audio via Teams. So it’s sooo important to come take meetings from a different physical location three times a week…sigh. Going into a mostly empty office is demoralizing and depressing. Even 2-years before Covid this was the case for me. Throw in the open office format and it makes it even worse IMO. and the cloud strategy is taking forever. So important to take cloud training to get certified for something that won’t happen for years ergo the training will be outdated. Who the heck is driving this boat…painful, esp. for ppl who actually want to work and enjoy a challenge. Without clear direction and transparency it is seemingly pointless. I miss the old days when you could make things happen…

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Post ID: @1orl+1tYwhjc9

Love going to the office 3 days a week. I have no bosses nor immediate coworkers in the same city. This is my typical schedule:
Monday: Log in at 8AM and work from home and actually get something done.
Tuesday: Arrive at office around 10AM, wait half an hour to get logged in. Grab some coffee. Wander around the unassigned cubes looking for a few people I know to chat about the weekend. Get back to my desk in time to go to lunch downstairs. Call into my boss' weekly afternoon meeting. Send a few emails. Start getting ready to go home at 3pm.
Wednesday: Arrive at office around 10AM. Get on Amazon and Target to order groceries to be delivered on Friday. Meet my friends who also work downtown, at the strip club down the street for their free lunch buffet. Back at my desk by 2pm and feeling great. Leave by 3pm.
Thursday: Arrive at the office by 10AM. Read news online. Find some coworkers and head for the employee lounge space downstairs to talk about plans for the weekend. Attend the usual Town Hall, AMA-type bogus online meetings or do some online classes for a couple hours. Go to salon. Head home by 3pm.
Friday: Log on at 8AM. Catch up on all the work I didn't do this week. Submit my weekly reports by 3PM. Review my calendar for next week. Submit PTO. Sign off by 5pm.
So, yeah, going to the office is lame. But on the bright side I only put in about 20 hours of work per week (majority on the days I work from home) and I get all my errands done while downtown freeing up my weekends for fun. When I used to work at Chase 2 years ago it was WAY more work so I'm very happy I made the switch to WF.

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Post ID: @1req+1tYwhjc9

Nobody I work with is in my building, let alone my city. Everybody I work with is in Charlotte, SF, etc. Has been that way for literally over a decade or more. There is zero reason for me to go into the office. That aside, the location strategy is asinine.

Here they hired a ton of people over the years, and many w/in the last 3-4 and KNEW they were remote, outside of a core city. I know a guy hired two years ago (roughly) and he flat out said he's not moving to a core city. I know another guy that just got laid off and he lives in a southern state. So we hired people knowing full well the job is remote, then decided we don't want them anymore after they've been here, learned about the company, have things they're working on. And what about India? We still have to speak with them, they're not in a core US city. So total remote to US is ok, but remote w/in the US isn't? and why do we have MS teams if everybody is supposedly collaborating onsite.

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Post ID: @1csk+1tYwhjc9

100% of collaboration in my group is by way of email, phone, and teams. We can't be hubbed based on customer locations, and yet I have to drive to a building full of people completely unrelated to my role because...? Yeah, there isn't a reason other than to p!$s me off. F Shart. Joke is on you, you useless hack. I'm putting off retirement just to make sure you have to pay me for a year to go away.

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Post ID: @1mke+1tYwhjc9

Mental health is a real concern. Too many years in to walk away (golden handcuffs), just outside the mileage range of a hub, though willing to drive mgmt will not reclassify so days in office literally do not count. How long will the albatross hang? Always a cheerleader but energy is waning. Make a decision, inform staff, lean in.

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Post ID: @1mfk+1tYwhjc9

I’m just being honest but look you have to just go in. Keep your job. The job market is fkd up right now. It’s just badge and badge out. Keep your job right now in this recession, seriously.

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Post ID: @1jti+1tYwhjc9

Right...let's force people from non-hub locations into certain office locations where they may or may not be sitting with their immediate teammates and expect them to be as productive, if not more, than if we would have just left them the heck alone and continued with their remote-status! S T O O P I D

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Post ID: @pqj+1tYwhjc9

1tYwhjc9, if you don’t have a skin in this game, please keep your opinion to yourself. No one cares about it and at the same time you sound like a traitor.

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@ogl+1tYwhjc9

WF C-Suite don't give a ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYdpCv6tRwg

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Post ID: @wyg+1tYwhjc9

I have better collaboration outside the office than in the morgue of cubeland.

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Post ID: @cix+1tYwhjc9

Baby I’m only gonna say this once so listen closely…

Don’t nobody give af about us

I hope this helps 💕💕

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Post ID: @ogl+1tYwhjc9

Look at it as a compliance test. A loyalty test. It's not suppose to make sense.

Read in "The Hatchet Man's Playbook" the part about the "brainbuster".

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