DCAI VP announced two weeks ago the group can’t keep investing in Xeon the way it used to be and is shifting investments into AI/GPU space. Since then voluntary CPM has been opened and closed this past weekend, and a lot of people are leaving. The managers in charge of logic design and physical design of next gen Xeon are leaving as announced this morning and most people have no motivation to work. I doubt the next generation Xeon will be competitive and on time.. I really want to leave but my wife is advising me to wait and see. Knowing 90% you will be laid off soon but still has to come to work everyday and play games is just terrible.
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poor vision and resource allocation understatement, if this is survival of the fittest, how many Intel id--ts you think will survive?
@1gqe,
seems like significant losses, sure.
but anyone at Intel is replaceable at any given point in time right?
the teams just continue marching under a new leader.
I’m in SIFG which is the team in charge of DMR. Friday morning the lead of logic design VB and the lead of structural design VK both announced they are leaving with last day being end of July. So far in all the road map meetings there are no talk about what’s next after DMR, I guess if you want to let go a whole team you should set a full stop and not arrange anything new. With the Xeon brain drain I don’t think Intel will ever catch up with AMD in terms of server design and by the time Intel GPU is good enough the market will already be saturated.
This is what happens every time:
Good engineers leave because other companies want them.
Bad managers stay because other companies don't want them.
@1fct+1tfxE4ep I laid with your mother.
I understand the frustration of the CPU teams, but do we really need 3 teams of our best talents for x86 CPU, and 1 mediocre team to crank out datacenter GPU every 2 years to compete with Nvidia top notch engineers producing new GPUs every year now? IMHO if we have moved more our best talents from CPU to GPU 10 years ago, we would be in better shape today. The management should be held accountable for their poor vision and resource allocation.
I've seen how this always happens over my 40 years.
Layoffs are announced, engineers that have options leave. Then the company continues to layoff people until all the local jobs have been taken by the engineers that left early. The engineers at the tail end can't find jobs and end up working at home depot while their homes and cars are repossessed, finally their wives leave.
Get real, the experience of 40 years should not be ignored.
Go get a freaking job that has a future. I really don't want your wife.
Listening to your wife is always a good idea to keep your home life secure. It is also good that you are having the discussion. If you think you have a 90% chance of getting laid off you should have your resume out there and trying to get interviews. You can always turn down offers. The people who stuck around after the brain drain of 2016 had 2-3 really tough years. The end result was losing the process technology lead and never regaining it. When there is a major consolidation in the workforce it is hard whether you stay or leave. Where do you want to be in a year or two? Can Intel get you there? Those are better questions than asking if you can survive the downturn.
Intel should have been working an architecture to replace x86 a long time ago. Constantly playing catch up is a miserable place to be.
My manager told us after voluntary CPM there for sure will be involuntary CPM. I’m in the group led by JK.