Thread regarding Ford layoffs

This week folks could be the big one. They do not care if it is the 4 th of July week.

Layoffs galore.

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According to this dude, Peter St. Onge, we have been in a depression for 4 years.

“…manufacturing orders have been flat for at least 3 years, while consumer spending has actually been negative for those 3 years.”

www.profstonge.com/p/have-we-been-in-recession-for-years

So… layoffs? Mass personnel reductions? Plan for them.

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Post ID: @8gti+1thLyGgi

Women are very unsafe at Ford.

Most of the engineers I've worked with are very misogynistic. They especially hate if the woman is highly skilled.

These men act out against women. It starts with anonymous forums like these. Then progresses to quiet whispers with like-minded men. Then it reaches actual attacks - verbal or physical - on women in public.

Most of these threads and posts prove this is alive and well at Ford in the lowest ranks.

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Post ID: @7zso+1thLyGgi

Ford has promoted so many incompetent women.

A powertrain plant promoted a women to resident engineer and she didn’t even know how an engine ran.

Company is doomed

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Post ID: @7szx+1thLyGgi

@3xxo+1thLyGgi same thing happened to me. Only female in a group and was moved to another job during the "smart" redesign where I had absolutely no experience so the group could bring in another male and get back to their boys club. Since I am not an id--t of the overall intentions, I quickly got myself out of the area and back into a role that matched my experience. Shortly after I received a promotion. Long story short, the boys club cr-p is never ending at Ford.

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Post ID: @3cbp+1thLyGgi

For everyone yelling about DEI, I'm a woman being thrown out of the department because all management is men, they've been a little group for a decade and they even brought back two, who retired, as agency, so they could all be together.

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Post ID: @3xxo+1thLyGgi

must be a newbie. it's kinda hard to layoff when all the guys doing the layoff are on vacation in their cabins up north.

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Post ID: @2yas+1thLyGgi

Won’t affect DEI folks.

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Post ID: @2qda+1thLyGgi

Will the round of layoffs impact DEI employees?

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Post ID: @2inv+1thLyGgi

I will rto and collaborate when LLC hires attend in person

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Post ID: @2ttx+1thLyGgi

"Capitalism allows leaders to find the lowest costs"

While I agree with this statement, let's not forget that 90% of the CEO and BoD of American public companies are NOT leaders. Most of them just blindly copy whatever the "trend" is, no matter if it fits their companies or not. Also, owners choose long term profits, while "leaders" choose short term profits, that in time, can destroy these companies.

The other point is defining "lowest costs" vs "best value". Since common wisdom states that "you get what you pay for", leaders should be very careful calculating the actual contributions of employees. After all, the "lowest costs" in the workforce should be zero, meaning no employees, but then there is no product/service to sell, and no company left. Regarding the LCCs, there are trade offs, like lacking experience or knowledge, delays, and a different culture (and yes, the last one is very important, and not in the DEI sense, more in the complete opposite sense). So all in all, not always the best value is in LCCs.

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Post ID: @1rgk+1thLyGgi

On a long enough time line - yes, it becomes a class system. Look at real estate. The ultra wealthy, including our former president, have made most of their money through real estate. And that has begun to slide lower and lower into the residential market. Now, more and more people struggle to afford a home to rent, let alone ever own one. The wealthy like this. We will own nothing and like it.

And Ford and other OEMs don't care if we can afford their new products. When they eliminated small car segments, senior leadership said they would make it up with used car sales. And over time, the used vehicles of tomorrow will last fewer years than the used vehicles of yesterday. Eventually, we will aspire to own vehicles. Just like the wealthy say that the poor should aspire to golf.

As the kids say, this isn't a bug, it's a feature. This is capitalism proving that the market can 'bare' so much more than we are 'comfortable' with. And if you speak out against it you'll be labeled a communist lib.

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Post ID: @1loo+1thLyGgi

Look up for when the next Town Hall is. That will settle this. If there are going to be layoffs, we will hear it first from leadership.

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Post ID: @1oom+1thLyGgi

"And if you ever challenge that, you'll be called a communist."
I can see why people not actually doing the work would think that. LCC employees whom are ok being miserable and over worked will do whatever. Because on our worst day their lives are apparently miserable enough to where being over worked is better than starvation. If that's the case they actually can win, I'm fine with that. I just won't be able to afford the product their overworked and underpaid souls make either. Eventually that = no sales. Lose/Lose...one of the flaw of the way things work (not capitalism) is that the solution is reactionary. The lack of resources has to come 1st and people are never precautionary. That's not a flaw of a capitalist economy, its humans being id--ts. Mindless, blind greed.

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Post ID: @1ncs+1thLyGgi

"I'll accept less salary for the matching amount of responsibility. "
what about upper management and the "investors"
who don't know how to make a car
will they be accepting less too

this is more and more looking like some sort of fu---d up class system

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Post ID: @1ifv+1thLyGgi

Every week could be the big one.

Without some reasoning that brings together published or unpublished information, you can pretty much ignore this.

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Post ID: @1kzi+1thLyGgi

@1gis+1thLyGgi

It doesn't work only one way.

You absolutely can say no to more work. But there are likely to be people who will say yes. You'll be replaced by those people.

That's capitalism. And if you ever challenge that, you'll be called a communist.

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Post ID: @1zev+1thLyGgi

Since Kumar along with Billy and Jimmy are moving jobs to India and other countries who in America will purchase or will be able to afford this brand.

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Post ID: @1duo+1thLyGgi

"Consider accepting less salary to compete with the foreign countries."

I'll accept less salary for the matching amount of responsibility. But wait, that's not how it works is it? You apparently can't do that, nor can you say no to additional work either. Strange how that works one way and not the other. Part of the hypocrisy of the current situation.

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Post ID: @1gis+1thLyGgi

FYI as we speak production of Transmissions are going to CAFTP. Eventually VEPC, STP, LTP will see their production volumes to be reduced. Same transmission costs 1/3 rd of what it costs to make in the US, same quality since Tier's are the same as in America but with branches in China.
Design work has been steadily moving to India, China and Turkey. For joint venture w/VW core engineering is done in Turkey.
Clerical positions may be transferred to Latin America but core engineering positions are moving to Asia, in particular India. Kumar is a strong pusher for moving design operations to India. Purchasing and STA operations are already there

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Post ID: @xdb+1thLyGgi

Ford is a mess. What do you expect. They cannot afford to keep U. S. Workers. Besides they have sold out a way to China , India, etc. I had a customer the other day who had a vehicle on order and she said it was going to be at least 5 months to get the car due to it was being built in China per the dealer. She was not happy.

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Post ID: @evz+1thLyGgi

While this is a fishing post, there are legitimate signs of pending reductions coming. Would not surprise me to see a voluntary offer hit inboxes soon aimed at age 50+/10 years/pension eligible people. We shall see...

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Post ID: @mbc+1thLyGgi

Capitalism allows leaders to find the lowest costs - including the workforce.

You do not have a right to have a job.

If you are opposed to this you aren't an R. You're just a snowflake L.

Work harder. Make yourself invaluable so they can't get rid of you. Consider accepting less salary to conpete with the foreign countries.

If they get rid of you, you have only yourself to blame.

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Post ID: @pso+1thLyGgi

Soon no one will be able to afford anything. Good jobs going over seas.

Ford CEO made 26 million last year as the company lost 5 billion on his love for EVs. And he is still an employed while sending jobs to Mexico, Brazil and India.

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