Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

I make sure to stay at my desk and jiggle manually in case I actually have to respond to something work related. If people are using them to go play golf or something, that just seems like asking for trouble.

It's an intelligence test, for sure.

@2dis Wrong - they can easily tell. Someone may have snitched initially but there are programs running right now that detect mouse jigglers, keystroke imitators, location detection, etc. Once Finra was notified of over a dozen people fired in 1 single dept, it went a whole new firmwide audit level.

If you use a jiggler, FFS, stop. Seriously. If anyone ever questions why your PC activity is low, it's simple. "I was having a spontaneous discussion in the hallway". That's it. Shart is evil, but also stupidly handed every person in the company an iron clad excuse for not working at times. 'the ceo said it was ok, so...'. done.

@1kea+1tkc2hyF, I had a few good managers in my past career. They all emphasized the importance of getting results, being productive, completing tasks/projects, accomplishing something rather than spending mindless work hours to accomplish nothing. Good leaders want to see good results, they don't want to see unproductive mindless puppets.

They can't prove you use a mouse jiggler unless someone snitches. The people who got caught were folks to left their mouse movers on and went to play golf. Their assistants snitched.

Full disclosure : I use a mouse jiggler

Let me get this straight, there are people employed here that truly think there is a valid reason for using a mouse jiggler?

Too funny. When you agree to be employed, unless your position requirements are different, we generally sign on for 40hr/week @ 8 hrs a day. There is always work to be done (ever heard the phrase “If you have time to lean you have time to clean”?) so there is no justified reason to use a jiggler. I use mine fully knowing it is against both common sense and company policy and I could face repercussions. But I’ll never sit here like some of you slobs trying to play the victim and reason why I do it or get all butthurt if I am caught.

If the work environment is a happy place instead of a toxic place, probably much less people will be using a mouse jiggler. Employees are demoralized and discouraged under the corrupt leadership, and there is no incentive to work harder except for collecting paychecks.

"It's unfathomable - despite that I've seen this kind of behavior first hand - I still just can't believe 1) people do it, and 2) they seem to get away with it more often than not."

Yep, I believe you.

A couple of years ago, one of the COO managers told me how to use a mouse jiggler so that the computer screen would not time out. He said many people have been already using it, and it should be ok as long as we don't abuse it.

The filing disclosed wf looked into a claim, meaning someone probably snitched and they knew which team to look at. Maybe they snitched after being caught, e.g., ”everyone is doing it.” Im not sure why WSJ didn’t explain this. Did they even read the filing?

It’s probably because WSJ is a pro business simp rag that’s also good for house breaking pets.

It's not just staff employees, I have seen some managers also doing it first hand. It all started from the middle management.

It's unfathomable - despite that I've seen this kind of behavior first hand - I still just can't believe 1) people do it, and 2) they seem to get away with it more often than not.

Meanwhile, the rest of us do our jobs plus some portion of theirs, again and again.

Honestly, I'm glad Wells can identify this bs and get rid of the waste. My 401k and hopefully my work-life balance thanks them for it.

Often, it’s a sign they’re in a workplace that values busy-ness over actual output.
“I would beg to question if that’s a good working environment to begin with,”

They want to create fear in the rank-and-file. Fearful people are easier to control