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NSI Ranking

I received an NSI ranking yesterday and have 7 calendar days to decide if I want to go on a PIP or take PIL. My ranking history ranges from Very Good to Excellent. Here are some questions I have:

  • What is the success rate for successfully completing a PIP?
  • What does this assessment mean long term with the company? As in…to reach the next CL or salary increase, I’ll need to perform at the very top consistently to make a bump.
  • What additional questions would you ask a manager or others in your network about approaching an NSI?
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Post ID: @OP+1tkl4ine

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OP. Your career at ExxonMobil is finished. Start a serious job search campaign ASAP. Buy as much time as you can. Taking the PIL sets a more defined time limit. Taking the PIP you can drag it out buying a bit more time with delays, excuses, etc, but not much. If you take the PIP and shamelessly kiss butt, there is a chance you'll pass, buying MUCH more time. If you pass it doesn't mean you're safe, they'll def get you next year. Keep pushing the job search. It's not about the money, find a role where you want to get out of bed, connect with good people and have hard time quitting for the day. F the money, it doesn't really count for much at the end

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Post ID: @3tao+1tkl4ine

@2fch you will still getting paychecks for 3 months as if you are still working there. The official separation date is at the end of Pil. Then after another few weeks you will get a check for your unused vacation

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Post ID: @2her+1tkl4ine

How much do folks typically get for PIL? (what's the calculation model)

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Post ID: @2fch+1tkl4ine
  1. Many people pass the PIP depending on department and “layoff” targets
  2. Survival is the exception. For most, this is the start of a journey out the door whether this year or the next.
  3. There is nothing to ask your supervisor at this point and even if you did get some sort of answer, how can you trust anything they tell you.

Not to be cold but why is anyone still at EMHC not prepared for a PIP/PIL. You should have the expectation that this will happen to you every ranking and it has nothing to do with your talents and performance. Even if you ride out this death march, you should have a resume updated, a future job(s) lined up and your finances in order.

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Post ID: @2ocz+1tkl4ine

Once you are ranked low it is nearly impossible to improve your ranking. Much easier next year to tell you that you again are the lowest relative performer in the group than to demoralize another employee. Having it on your rank history will also limit future roles as many groups wont accept someone to transfer in who has been ranked low. You should resign and start over somewhere else. This is the company's way of telling you to leave.

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Post ID: @2vzu+1tkl4ine

Understand system is sham so don’t apply any performance logic to it. You should have listed your age and time to reach retirement status. If you are near then take plan. If you are far then quit. Either way you have been chosen to draw the NSI straw and will continually get them.

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Post ID: @1xry+1tkl4ine

One thing not to do is personalise the improvement areas on the PIP. It’s all made up and lies. The culture promotes liars and manipulative individuals with no moral values who would sell their mothers for a cl upgrade…

My supervisor lied about things on my feedback and exaggerated the negatives to pip me .

I believe in karma

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Post ID: @1jwr+1tkl4ine

Take the pip to give yourself time to find a new job if you need it. However keep in mind your supervisor will likely actively work to make it look like you have performance deficiencies when you really don’t. The point of the pip in most cases is so they have a paper trail to justify the ranking and eliminate your position. In the case that they want you to stay the metrics will be objective and not an opinion. You will be able to figure this out pretty quickly based on the plan. The plan is a terrible experience and you will feel horrible on a daily basis but it does buy you time to transition elsewhere.

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Post ID: @1nwv+1tkl4ine

Even if you pass you get no raise this year and are likely to have low ranking going forward, so take the PIL

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Post ID: @1txy+1tkl4ine

Your supervisor will be direct to say that you will pass the PIP. If not, you're done, you should take the PIL without hesitation. HR does not take PIP for granted, it's like a binding agreement with them and you and your supervisor. HR does not care and wants people out.

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Post ID: @1rvj+1tkl4ine

For some, but not all, the NI and NSI is a sham. You should never be surprised when it comes because it means your supervisor is not doing his/her job. In other cases, you may have been given a cr-ppy assignment that is ill suited to your skills, or someone just simply doesn’t like you. PIP is just a way to use you as fodder to promote someone else. If you know you’ve done a good job, then that’s all that matters. I knew it was as a sham when my supervisor couldn’t even look me in the eye when I got my results the year I turned 55. Mumbled something about it’s not about the results but about behavior. I should have quit right then and save myself the aggravation and stress. But I had to get all my finances together and find another job before I pull the trigger.

If you are not happy and you see the sign of stagnation or you want to simply take back control of your career trajectory, make a plan to get out as fast as you can.

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Post ID: @1xyq+1tkl4ine

It is about reducing you for a cheap replacement from India and not your real contributions. You can take a PIP if it is the first one and you are far below 50. If you are over 55, you will likely not pass and just waste a lot of energy, thinking you can save the job. They will force you out if you are senior enough. BTW: it has nothing to do with your actual performance and you know it. After 20 years there I came to a conclusion, that there is no real ranking anyways. That would be too much work. Just more-or-less a random assignments of your percent group, likely based on how much you kiss up, not how well you perform. Most of real work is done by people in lowest rank. The older they are, the more they deliver for less. Basically, ranking is a big lie, just like most other things they tell you (vs. What they really do).

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Post ID: @1wrc+1tkl4ine

Hey there. Sorry this is happening to you. As people have mentioned passing a PIP depends heavily on your supervisor, whether they are honest, and your relationship with them.

When this happened to me, i had a respectful relationship with the supervisor. I asked what the supervisor thought my chances were. They felt good about my chances and shared the plan, which seemed reasonable. I passed, but ultimately left within the next year and went to work someplace else. Very happy they pushed me to look elsewhere…moving on from ExxonMobil was the best thing that ever happened to me. Seriously. Don’t let them convince you that you are anything other than excellent.

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Post ID: @1bsd+1tkl4ine

Ive never been ranked below excellent and I was sure my career at Exxon was done.
NSI is game over. Find another job. It’s great to be on the outside, I can assure you. The relief of handing over your laptop and badge is priceless.

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Post ID: @1itd+1tkl4ine
  1. You’re done. Process over a couple drinks in next 2 days, then start working.
  1. If you’re truly done, consider the PIP. If passed, you have a few more months to search, but really you should find a job within 3 months. While on the PIP you are still employed, which helps find another job.
  1. You will likely pass the PIP unless you have a toxic, combative relationship with your supv. But make no mistake your career at Exxon is done. Don’t think you’re some exception, or your case is different. Go where you are wanted.
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Post ID: @1vew+1tkl4ine

Someone noted below that supervisor would not reveal anything regarding the 'Performance Improvement Plan' designed specifically for you.
That's because they don't have one prepared.
They don't have any individual-specific improvement feedback.

Should you choose the PiP - they'll pull one out for you.
But guess where they pulled it out from.

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Post ID: @1hex+1tkl4ine

In my opinion based on my experience and others that I know of:

Pretty high likelihood that you would pass a PIP given general results and your past rank history

Longer term is tougher to guess. I and others have had the big drops, others have had a big bump, they tend to be pretty quiet about it.

As others have said, the key is the dialog with your supervisor and for them to verbalize that they are going to work with you during the PIP. They cannot make any guarantees of course, but they should make it pretty clear if they are going to be working to get you through the PIP.

Even If you decide to take the PIP and get through it, I would recommend that you continually work afterwards to line up another career option. You might very well rebound a bit, or you might find another great opportunity, or you might reach the end of the road at XOM.

I truly hate the toxicity generated by this process.

Hope it works out for you.

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Post ID: @1tal+1tkl4ine

Let the clock wind down to the last day you have to make a decision, then met with your manager calling them Haywood. When they ask you who’s Heywood, your reply is “Haywood Jebblome!” and then press that select PIL button and send. Peace out. Done.

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Post ID: @kqm+1tkl4ine

If you sensed that your supervisor/manager was truly apologetic when you were put in that bucket and reassures you that you will pass the PIP, you should be fine doing the PIP. Although that will mark your career at XOM with that red flag, forever in your forehead. If you see no compassion from your leaders about your ranking, just take the PIL, it's really the end of your journey at XOM and they want you out. That's exactly the same advice I got from another manager at XOM who I confided with (who I know very well from my early career), when I got the bad news.

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Post ID: @wdb+1tkl4ine

Buy yourself the most time. Your boss may change in the mean time. Seen 2 cases where guys fought it and stayed which during their boss changed. One finally got promoted to a supervisor not to long after. The other is a dud for CX.

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Post ID: @owy+1tkl4ine

I was nsi’d. My supervisor was the worst I’ve had in my career. A bully with no integrity or intelligence.

I took the PIP and did all the work towards it while looking for a job and saving. I had a deadline in my mind I would resign on whether I found a job or didn’t… got lucky and found more than a few offers…

Here are some facts. Once pipped, no other department will take you no matter the reason or ur past record. Ur career is shot. No promotions. No payrise that year. You are fodder again for being pipped without an annual review…

It’s time to say goodby to Exxon.

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Post ID: @rlm+1tkl4ine

Not really, you are terminated

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Post ID: @auk+1tkl4ine

What do you get when you choose the PIL? Do you get some type of severance?

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Post ID: @hvo+1tkl4ine

Leave, PIP or PIL are the last nail to your coffin. Get a new job! Do not let them to minimize your effort in thar sh**y compnay.

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Post ID: @cjz+1tkl4ine

Take the blue PIL! Darren doesn’t want you, and will thank him for it later. Take the summer off and get a job at Chick-fil-A!

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Post ID: @rdw+1tkl4ine

Avoid the PIP and take the PIL. Why? If you accept the PIP, your daily mindset will be focused on survival. Is that the environment you want to work in? Other companies will appreciate your training, skills, and talent simply to do a good job for them. Also, dispel any notion of long-term opportunities for you at ExxonMobil. Rising from the ashes to later become a success story makes a nice movie plot, but it's fiction.

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Post ID: @wwg+1tkl4ine

OP, I guess you are either young or new hire for only 7 days to make a decision. I was giving 3 weeks to decide the PIP or PIL. I think the decision was via a survey kind of link from HR.
Anyway, start job hunting right away, take the PIP to potentially buy you more time. You can convert to Pil as soon as you get an offer.
My manager did not let me preview the PIP requirements and will only show me after I take the PIP option which I didn't. I took the Pil as I have something lined up next already, again I would recommend you to take the PIP unless you already have something lined up as well.
Finally, good luck on your job hunting!

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Post ID: @jti+1tkl4ine

Use you entire decision time to update your Resume and job search. You might just find a good place to work that appreciates you.

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Post ID: @uht+1tkl4ine

Under 40 you have 7 days to decide. 40+ you have 30 days. Take all the time to keep your supervisor guessing and notify them last minute. They deserve no courtesy. I know from experience, have passed 2 PIPs in EMTEC Houston campus. Expect to be PIPed again this year and layed off. I already have a new job lined up that started in a few weeks, so will get double pay for a few months :)

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Post ID: @vlv+1tkl4ine

I’d confirm those 7 days… you should have more time than that to make your decision, at least 2-3 weeks. Company grants you that time so you have the opportunity to consult with financial specialists / attorney and consider options.

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Post ID: @ogz+1tkl4ine

Success of passing the PIP can depend on your Supervisor. If you did great work and your Supervisor threw you into the NSI pit for other reasons, passing the PIP under that same Supervisor may not be possible.
Discuss with your Supervisor what your Performance Improvement Plan will consist of and all measurable targets you will need to achieve.
Also ask if there is a possibility to pass the PIP based on the layoff target. I have seen someone excel at their PIP but let go anyway because the target layoff number so Supervisor endorsing all PIP achievements meant zero that year.

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Post ID: @wal+1tkl4ine

OP I'm sorry to hear this but I ain't surprised. Take a day or two to absorb this. It's hard to accept. Also, this isn't your fault. I'm sure your performance was excellent. The NSI has nothing to do with your performance or the quality of your work. It's the fault of the management committee that wants to make ExxonMobil an asian company. Nothing else. The chances of passing the PIP depend on your supervisor and your relationship with him. If the relationship is bad or weak just take the PIL. It also depends on HR and the head count target. HR can make you fail the PIP. It has the authority to do so. As of your long term career prospects I can assure you that they're zero. As of yesterday the corporation doesn't want you or your contributions. Even if you pass the PIP you'll survive maybe one or two more years with Exxon. You're done. Also you'll be NSI again next year. Give the PIP a shot. You might pass it. But you must start looking for another job this week.

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Post ID: @ijf+1tkl4ine
  1. Success rate depends on the target for head count reduction.
  2. NSI means that the company wants you out the door. Chances of long time survival questionable.
  3. Ask others in your network about finding your next job.
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