Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Poll: Unlimited PTO

I saw a few posts that are ok with unlimited PTO. Let's collect some numbers:

Downvote this post: I'm against unlimited PTO

Upvote this post: I'm ok with unlimited PTO.

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Post ID: @OP+1u4LibEE

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All tech companies have moved to this.

BS.

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Post ID: @Dhvv+1u4LibEE

HPE just announced unlimited PTO plan today also. All tech companies have moved to this. I'm sure there is a metric kept on PTO use/abuse, and will factor into the LR formula with a certain weight.

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Post ID: @Cnty+1u4LibEE

Initially I had a very negative reaction to this change. I’ve always tried to keep close to the maximum allowed hours banked in case of layoffs, I did this at the expense of taking time off I really should have and did this at the expense of my mental health.

Now with unlimited VTO I’ll take 20-25 days per year and not think twice about it, also add the 80 hours of sick time (which can also be taken as mental health days) I’m starting to embrace the change.

I’m sure some people will try and abuse the new policy and others will still not take off time when they should.

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Post ID: @Chax+1u4LibEE

Unlimited PTO is a way to remove your claim (during a layoff) for unused vacation days especially for Californians that can stack them annually (per state law). IMO, it's not good for a San Jose company to have unlimited vacation.

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Post ID: @Chst+1u4LibEE

@mkv+1u4LibEE no, splunk did not have unlimited time off before the acquisition.

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Post ID: @Clme+1u4LibEE
I’ll be taking way more PTO than I ever did, that’s for effin sure.

No. You want to take way more PTO than you ever did but your manager may give you way less PTO than you ever took. That is up to their discretion and often decided on how idle the team is. With laying of 6000 employees, no team will be idle.

I'm not even sure why this needs to be discussed. Ask your friends from other fine companies that implement unlimited pto.

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Post ID: @1vha+1u4LibEE

Did Splunk have unlimited PTO before the acquisition?

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Post ID: @mkv+1u4LibEE

Fran is already using unlimited PTO enjoying her 4th week in Paris with family with bonus of Cisco paying for it

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Post ID: @dny+1u4LibEE

With unlimited PTO the power shifts to your manager who will approve your vacation only at their discretion like when you can take it and also how much time you can take off. To all the folks who are joking i will take more PTO since its unlimited hope you realize they will get rid of you on the first sign of layoffs. Yeah unlimited PTO is bad in that sense. On the flip side if you are the favorite employee usually 1 or 2 person in a team things can work out very well for you, you can be in cahoots with your manager. Point is fairness equation is removed with unlimited PTO the benefits shifts again to selected few which always has been the case in Cisco historically in terms of promo or other benefits.

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Post ID: @npe+1u4LibEE

@kqw+1u4LibEE take two weeks off a month and let me know how that works out

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Post ID: @nzx+1u4LibEE

I work 2 jobs so now it will be a cake walk with new PTO policy

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Post ID: @xjk+1u4LibEE

Many have been working part time anyway but now they can take full days off using the new rules

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Post ID: @ndf+1u4LibEE

no complaints, I'll be taking more time off and not storing my PTO for layoff protection

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Post ID: @vdy+1u4LibEE

Between sick days, T2G, and unlimited PTO, i will only have to work 6 months out of the year

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Post ID: @rhv+1u4LibEE

I will take 2 weeks off every month

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Post ID: @kqw+1u4LibEE

I’ll be taking way more PTO than I ever did, that’s for effin sure.

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Post ID: @wtt+1u4LibEE

Not possible in certain countryies like Canada
"Alignment with labour laws: It’s crucial that your policy doesn’t violate any labour laws. The Canada Labour Code, for example, outlines vacation “entitlements” based on how long an employee has worked for you. If you choose to implement an unlimited time‑off policy, and an employee resigns or is terminated, you need to make sure you aren’t on the hook for owed or earned vacation pay as defined by the law. A clause added into your company’s employment agreement can solve this. See the Annual vacations page on Canada.ca for more information."

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