Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

I am not hourly, but if they dictate I have to be at the office for 8hrs, all of my outside of office duties such as being on call, will not be answered. If they want to watch me, then make me hourly.

"Shoppertrack cameras being installed in office entry and exit points. First 90 days just monitoring behaviors of office staff, primarily L1-L3 activity. The expect a townhall readout on RTO compliance."

latest rumor I've heard is that they are finally installing heat sensors to monitor signs of sickness and areas of congregation. You can see the designs on the ATS pdf diagrams for future of work.

I have also heard about jokes from executives (my wife puts all her calls on speaker) about piping in low dosages of incapacitation agents. While its weak enough to not incapacitate you, it would be enough to make you susceptible to suggestion. The office really is a hostile environment, I'd stay out of it as much as possible.

I finally found a job where I don't have to work and they want to mess that up. What a bunch of horse s.

Shoppertrack cameras being installed in office entry and exit points. First 90 days just monitoring behaviors of office staff, primarily L1-L3 activity. The expect a townhall readout on RTO compliance.

“ I know the real goal is to get rid of as many people as people as possible but why not just man up and do it openly like Cisco, Intel and the rest and do away with the bullsh-t”

Exactly correct. I recall a previous town hall when that little yapping Jeremy “the logg” was agitated about getting the same questions about if RTO was really about layoffs. He didn’t man up. Funny watching him try to answer the question sternly as if to half-attempt to muster up some vibe of authority. lol. He said if we wanted to layoff people he would just do it. Well tell that to the people that accepted their new RTO location in his DEI rich demographic pool of Atlanta, and then got fired anyway. What an utter floppy disk this guy is.

Funniest thing yet is that he came to ATS as the mayor of the swamp. He had no idea what the Stink man would be telling him to do just a year later. The little Loggs ATS dreams were crushed when he was the last to realize that there would be no grandiose Techie revival at his helm, but rather the actual draining of the swamp he now has to take a pi$$ in.

Now the little Logg is relegated to creating yet another API catalog (which is nothing more than an exercise to document outlier API’s for the soon to be retired remaining home grown apps). But Stink also wants the logg to get the choo choo train ticketing program under control. Good luck with that stink of a mess. IBM, tech m, and everybody and their brother are riding that gravy train to oblivion.

But don’t worry, thee RTO irony will soon be upon the little logg himself.
Maybe then he will have read the memo that it IS about layoffs.

So basically the idea is to take a policy people hate and openly defy and make it even more annoying while calling it ‘culture’. Brilliant management. Their credo must be that we double down on d-mb.

Smart people would take the hint and either try to make the office less pointless or save money and unload the real estate. Guess that’s why company performance is where it is.

I know the real goal is to get rid of as many people as people as possible but why not just man up and do it openly like Cisco, Intel and the rest and do away with the bullsh-t.

"How about you only get paid for time on site. You leave at noon, you get a half day pay. Maybe you could figure out the expectation from there… "

This would mean we would be hourly and could get OT. considering how much a lot of us work beyond the normal 8... I think we'd take it.

Wow, Stankey’s compensation is going to be greatly reduced this year. Is he still in Paris?

“ They are going to have to update the policy to tell us how long we have to stay.”

How about you only get paid for time on site. You leave at noon, you get a half day pay. Maybe you could figure out the expectation from there…

Look at all these people going off, RTO really has created a collaborative workforce (just against the company and leadership lol).

Near future, biometrics and inserting a chip, don’t worry it’s only the size of a grain of rice. If you don’t like it, quit. They own you…

It’s quite simple - badge in , laptop connected to corp wifi/lan and the system can easily tell where you are connected and for how long. Understand people have appointments from time to time , have a house issue, etc but you have to document when and why . I’m sure the conversations will start with the people who stay in the office less than 30 hours a week. It’s unfortunate but that’s the reality of where we are today. It’s up to you how much risk you want to take with compliance . If you want to stay off the radar come in , get your hours in and document when/why you have to be remote .

*** news flash -- AT&T to require employees to wear ankle bracelets while in the office and must get permission from their supervisor before going to the restroom

"They are already monitoring. How else would they come up with 22%!? Anything that can be done to get you to quit they will do. "

That number seems pretty bogus based on how packed Lenox is on Tuesday and Wednesday. 50% would be more realistic. 22% is hilarious if it's true.

I feel d-mb for staying all day most of the time if that's the actual number.

They are already monitoring. How else would they come up with 22%!? Anything that can be done to get you to quit they will do.

"Thin ice for the company if this is true. Salaried employees are exempt and don't punch the hourly time clock..."

I'm afraid that's not exactly correct. An employer can require an exempt employee to track hours and report time. They can even require them to maintain a set schedule and and discipline them according to their policies for not adhering to that schedule, up to and including termination.

Where the FLSA comes in is if they try to mess with your pay for not working a full day. So if you have any to five Monday through Friday and you show up at 9:00 all week, they cannot mess with your salary pay. But they can most certainly discipline you for not adhering to the company policy.

There are certain areas where they start flirting with constructive discharge, but it has to be fairly specific and the burden of proof would be on the employee... The union is looking better and better :-)

Just because an employee is exempt doesn't mean they can work any schedule and how often or little they would prefer to work. Employers can set a schedule and require 40 hours a week from exempt. I don't know where some of the fantasy ideas I see here come from.

Thin ice for the company if this is true. Salaried employees are exempt and don't punch the hourly time clock. Now, if the company wants to require set number of hours per day, this will bring the non-exempt classification in question. Along with that come Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) which is hourly pay w/overtime. I see T leadership has not learned their lesson since they had to settle on a lawsuit in Lubbock Texas years ago for similar activates.

“He leaks info out whenever executives and HR get into their debate sessions about how they can’t control the workforce. Instead of using labs to research new products, they get them coding tools to bounty hunt employees. Most things he says comes true. Many things he says ends up becoming worse than the rumor.”

This is hilarious.
I can just see Stankey now - “WHY WON’T THESE DAMN DEVELOPERS JUST SIT IN THE OFFICE DOING NOTHING WAAAHHH WHY WONT THEY LISTEN TO ME, WHY DONT THEY RESPECT ME WAAAHHHH”

I don’t know man, because you’re an overpaid bozo in a tailored clown suit who lead or was involved in numerous deals that has lost the company hundreds of billions of dollars? When was the last time you had a successful acquisition or business deal? You gave Microsoft billions for Azure when on-premise was cheaper, bought their lies about cost savings and increased security.
You just gave Ericsson 14 billion, that’s a sh-t show they can’t write software for sh-t - I know all about that, total clown show, promised a platform for us to deploy software to manage cells, literally all vapor ware.

Stankey is a failure, a total fu-ko loser.

I don’t want any accountability for having to work.

Which AVP? I wonder if it’s the same AVP I know. He leaks info out whenever executives and HR get into their debate sessions about how they can’t control the workforce. Instead of using labs to research new products, they get them coding tools to bounty hunt employees. Most things he says comes true. Many things he says ends up becoming worse than the rumor.

Att policies don’t feel like needs of the business, they feel like blind hatred at the work force. Aren’t you all tired of that? I am.

"Those not in compliance need to be terminated."

per the OP you are asking the company to fire 88% of its employees

BS! We’re not clock punching factory workers. If 8 hrs to 40, then where’s the OT?! Hypocrisy at its finest from these sociopathic Machiavellians!

That’s fine. I’ll just do less work.

“They will leave it open to the manager to shame and denigrate your career path record in Workday. To do that, they will make your manager accountable for your performance. They took away power from ADs and gave to Directors so that Directors could hold performance ratings for directs against the ADs. It’s a crazy mechanism built on extreme negativity, ransoms, shaming.”

What career path?
Sir, this is an AT&T, not a Google.

Who gives a fu-k.

ThOsE NoT In cOmPlIaNcE NeEd tO Be tErMiNaTeD.

Those not in compliance need to be terminated.

Do these mo--ns realize why people don’t want to stay in the office? Monitors are not working. Desks are dirty. Floor is filthy. Garbage cans overflowing and smelly. On top of that people constantly use Teams as collaboration tool and talk loud ignoring others.

Monitoring, like a baby monitor

When it comes to office presence, it’s clear that each leadership chain is handling it their own way. Some vastly different than others.

That said, wouldn’t want to report up to Legg or Townes.

“Notice no one is putting anything in writing.
There is a reason for that.”

They will leave it open to the manager to shame and denigrate your career path record in Workday. To do that, they will make your manager accountable for your performance. They took away power from ADs and gave to Directors so that Directors could hold performance ratings for directs against the ADs. It’s a crazy mechanism built on extreme negativity, ransoms, shaming.

Notice no one is putting anything in writing.
There is a reason for that.

What a way to unmotivate. Soon there will be no motivation to be innovative. Government worker mentality and bankers 9-5 is all that will remain.

Gotta make some cuts. Obviously we don't need that many workers.

"Tell your boss that. I am sure it will go over well. "

Oh yeah sometimes I forget this isn't a normal company where we are all treated like professionals. I'll just do my 8 hours and not log in to handle stuff when I get home. I don't care anymore.

"They are going to have to update the policy to tell us how long we have to stay."

Tell your boss that. I am sure it will go over well.

“Are employees finally going to get access to reports that show if you checked in, how long and place to list reason if couldn't vs emailing manger if any issue. They have to be babysitter. Manager should only get reports went employee not complying. Reports shouldn't be two weeks ago information.”

Probably not, the system is so unreliable and wonky as it is, everything is delayed.
They also want to keep you guessing and miserable so you show up at 8am and just sit at your laptop making sure it doesn’t go to sleep or miss a ‘ping’.
It’s going to be a horror show cause I guarantee it’s going to flag people who are actually at the office due to missed pings or whoever they’re gonna do it.

It’s trash, T is trash, once the job market improves get the fu-k out.

They are going to have to update the policy to tell us how long we have to stay.

Are employees finally going to get access to reports that show if you checked in, how long and place to list reason if couldn't vs emailing manger if any issue. They have to be babysitter. Manager should only get reports went employee not complying. Reports shouldn't be two weeks ago information.

Is anyone really surprised that almost no one is following these stupid fu--ing directives?
I’m not.

The office is a ghost town after noon, no one wants to be there to sit on teams calls and deal with rush hour and all the bullsh-t.

It’s packed in the meantime, it’s loud, it’s unproductive, it just su-ks.