Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

RTO is not about collaboration. We all know I was just a BS excuse.

RTO is to push people out via voluntary leave.

Still average for me. And if I have a week PTO I only go in 1 day the week prior. Seems to be working so far.

That has never been the way my area operates. Required in office 3 days a week but holidays & pto count as days for that week. Need to be in office min 6 hours days.

@ban+1uLOOOZu. Before Covid nobody cared. If you could get your job done remotely and mixing in office and remote nobody care. The only thing I saw was at one point if you weren’t in the office a certain amount you had to give up your cube and use a hotel cube.

With Covid and everyone working remote it showed that we don’t need to be in the office for many roles.

I know someone coming back to the bank this month. They are 5 days in office then the following week 5 days remote

I had my first bout with covid in July. It was brutal and I did go into the office and worked sick.

@igd+1uLOOOZu

This ^^^^^^^!
Same here,

All HY cares about is voluntary attrition. Every single decision they make and word the utter is calculated to maximize it. Everything.

WF has so many more important issues to be concerned about. Just another example of their extremely poor leadership and no sense. Nothing will ever improve as long as they keep focusing on nonsense. What a bunch of total id--ts. Truly.

it says on the teamworks workplace website that the requirement is a minimum of 3 days a week on average - and that specific businesses may have stricter standards - it's a minimum. whether you are allowed to make up after the fact or must have extra days "banked" ahead of time is at LOB discretion.

It’s been a 30 day average in my WFA lob. Yes it’s tracked & it is part of your performance review if out of adherence to 3/2. Especially if you are a possible exceeds they knock you back to meets. They don’t promote “making it up to average 3/2” due to the number of people that abused it.

I am retiring after the bonus payout in late Jan/early Feb., so trying to stay off the radar ‘til then. I might stop going in altogether at some point in Dec. Wish I knew when this report hits my manager’s inbox. CIB here.

@ban+1uLOOOZu

I have been working for Wells Fargo since 2008. My telecommuter agreement was torn up and my exception not renewed. So now I will have to go into the office next week for the first time ever as an employee of Wells Fargo.

It has nothing to do with COVID. I was hired as a remote employee. I have no coworkers in the office I am assigned. So I will be going into the office just to have Teams meetings with my coworkers.

The good news is that they have yet to implement any repercussions. Right now, it's just your manager telling you to get it together.

@ban+1uLOOOZu A couple of things-

1. You are an id--t. Many people were remote before Covid and now have to go into an office when they do not work with anyone in person.
2. You are a corporate simp.

A couple of things. Does anyone find it annoying or just a hassle to keep track of the RTO days, moving avgs, rolling days over , etc ?
How much of your time is spent trying to figure out or out smart the RTO days?
There was never this level of complaining before the pandemic about going into the office 5 days a week. Now everyone is acting like they are entitled to work from home. Are they so naive that they thought WFH was going to be a permanent thing? Just suk it up folks.

Wells Fargo Advisors here. We have different RTO requirements for different employees under the same manager in the same department. Depends on the employee’s job description. Half the department has to come in to the office 5 days per week now while the other half is still only 3 days per week. 5 day RTO people are just expected to su-k it up. No reasonable explanations, no negotiations, no exceptions, no concessions, no talking about it.

My LOB tracks us weekly. My manager sends a note every monday afternoon if we miss a day in the office the week prior.

But yet there are still thousands who are remote

Man it just gets worse somehow

LOB specific. Currently the directive in mine is 3 days a week, no banking or make-up, 4 week and 13 week roller (with any combination inbetween available) BUT no impact until you hit below a 2.6 avg.

I think what drives us all nuts is how different L.O.B.s are being told different requirements and even that is subject to change. Would love to hear from anyone who documented what they were told and when about RTO.

For those of us whose work is accomplished online, working from home was such a positive step into the future. Really su-ks that we are taking that big step BACKWARD, in my opinion. So nice while it lasted :)

Since RTO to hybrid model a few years ago our LOB has always been 3 day a week, not an average so if we miss our 3 days in for whatever reason we are out of compliance.

@ezk+1uLOOOZu Yep management won’t admit it explicitly, but that is pretty much where we are at.

It’s specific to your LOB.

Moving average makes zero sense. You’d always have to go in 3 days a week otherwise you’re out of compliance. May as well mandate 3 days per week no exceptions.

So if I’m sick I’m not working from home. I’ll use a sick day. That means no work will be done, no calls for just one quick question. If I’m on vacation I will use PTO and be unreachable.

My lob uses a 4 week avg

That's just your LOB...for now

@foi+1uLOOOZu Unfortunately that is exactly what’s happening, I notice people who are visibly sick at the office all the time.

One example used in the original guidance was if an employee was sick one week, they could make up their days the following week. If they got rid of this, everyone will start coming into the office sick. Talk about babysitting.

@udl+1uLOOOZu It’s always been a rolling/moving 13 week average. Difference now is that the average cannot dip below 3.0 ever, so you cannot go in two days one week and make it up by going 4 days the next, etc.

Do you mean the “average” for 13 weeks becomes a “moving average” for 13 weeks?