I have had a medical accommodation for years. I have MS; it is not going to go away/get better. With the recent "check-in", I took the form to my doctor, had it filled out completely and sent back to Accommodations. They now have come back with a completely different form they need filled out by my doctor. This 2nd form is ridiculous. So I now need to try to schedule and pay for a 2nd appointment with the doctor?!?
I realize their goal is to make people so frustrated with the process they quit, but how is this legal ??
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My department has more people wfh than on a hybrid schedule. A few people with known disabilities should have stayed have wfh and never called back to the office. The problem is that so many people went for depression or anxiety and it was the slackers, potheads or just the people always trying to scam the system that got away with wfh full time. It is to the point that people with real disabilities are going to have to say they have depression in order to be left alone.
Scheduled first available interview with EEOC to discuss similar situation and it’s in March 2025.
Hoping they continue to approve mine. I have several chronic conditions and the fact that people come in sick all the time makes all my issues turn severe and I end up on months of antibiotics, prednisone, a nebulizer on top of all the stuff I already take to try and stay well. Since wfh I rarely have to go on the additional meds. I wish you good luck.
Reach out to the Eeoc. This is direct from their site,
The EEOC’s Enforcement Guidance on Reasonable Accommodation and Undue Hardship under the ADA provides insight on this:
The employer may request periodic updates, but only if the accommodation appears to no longer be effective or the medical condition has changed.
An employer cannot require unnecessary recertifications simply because they prefer different documentation.
Employers cannot target a specific group unfairly. The request for recertification should be applied consistently, not just based on the type of accommodation, unless the condition or need for accommodation naturally requires periodic updates (e.g., temporary conditions).
Hey disabled folks, feeling "appreciated" yet? 🤬 The HY execs are evil men that should all be fired.
Yep, dr will fill out 2nd form and they will still find an in office accommodation.
If your doctor has a patient portal, you can submit the form via their portal. There may be a small 10.00 admin fee. But yeah, still more bull$#it for you to worry about on top of your MS. All the best to you!
“Look at the stats of percentage of people on specific call center teams on anccomt and compare to other groups at same level. If it’s the same then compare across all call center groups. I assure you it’s not the same.”
Literally what does this even mean? That people with similar disabilities tend to have similar jobs given the types of jobs they can handle? Or given the types of jobs that used to hire remote workers?
Also, what good does it do for disabled people to be mad at non-disabled people getting accommodations? Will it give them what they need to perform well at their job?
Meanwhile people are gettting accomodations for lighting and seating.
Emp> The lights are too bright
HR>No problem, you can WFH
Also
Emp>I have MS and suffer intense pain
HR>Nope. Try to make it in at least 2 times a week
@ifz+1uLbiRPm.
Employee : “I need accommodations!”
Employer : “ok here they are to make your day to day easier”
Employee : “these are the accommodations I WANT, this is total BS!”
Does that sum it all up for the class?
Contact the EEOC. Be very clear about the part of the ADA they are violating.
@ @fkz+1uLbiRPm
The "forever" accommodation is a thing of the past. All accommodations will have to go through this nightmare of a process on an annual basis. Even with conditions like MS that are not going to improve.
This is further evidence that they truly do not care about the well-being or work life balance of their employees.
OP here -
My manager has already told them there is no hardship to the team, my doctor filled out the form staring that I need the accommodation, and I have been successfully working this way for YEARS.
How can they say I am asking for an unreasonable accommodation ?
One of the questions on the stupid 2nd form asks if coming in 1 or 2 days would work instead of full time remote. If I concede to do 1 day, will that help my cause ?
I have been here 16 years. All I want is to be able to work like I have for those 16 years without compromising my health / quality of life.
Should I be contacting EEOC or ADA for assistance with this ?
OP - I had a medical accommodation too (a very valid one) and they forced me back into the office this year, but not the full 3 days per week. No changes were made to any desk, etc.
When I saw they left my location as "remote" - even though I was going into the office - I knew my time was limited.
Was displaced this year.
They don't care about their employees unless you are an executive. They are offshoring most of the jobs they are cutting and the low hanging fruit, like us, are first to go. The older workers and disabled. You can be sure they've done enough to cover their butts to avoid lawsuits. Such a sad state of things - it used to be such a great company to work for.
I never needed an accommodation because I was hired as full-time remote years before the C0vid plandemic. Now that I've signed my relocation agreement, if I felt the need to go down the accommodations rabbit hole, how far out from my first day in the office (hybrid) should I start the process?
“ This whole idea that there are people manipulating the system is an ableist dog whistle that companies have been using to manipulate people for years.”
Incorrect. Look at the stats of percentage of people on specific call center teams on anccomt and compare to other groups at same level. If it’s the same then compare across all call center groups. I assure you it’s not the same. Again, as someone else stated this is a case of a few people sc--wing the system for those that really need accommodations. Even if it is just ten percent of all people on accommodations, all those that truly need it should be livid against the abusers.
I work with someone who claims that her accommodation is that the air in the buildings is too dry for her eyes. People abuse the system like crazy.
There are several people on my team that put in their accommodations very early in the RTO process and have them “forever” none have been reassessed nor do they have any real medical need.
OP: My Wife has MS - bless your heart for still working. The fatigue alone makes it so difficult.
Anonymous Whine Poster: Bite me.
They will still ask you to come in and give you an accessible desk on the first floor.
To be honest, the company’s recent push to rescind many disabled employees’ accommodations is more likely because they have decided that they would rather pay off the few disabled people that get to the point of being able to sue them than pay to navigate the realities of making reasonable accommodations.
This whole idea that there are people manipulating the system is an ableist dog whistle that companies have been using to manipulate people for years. It’s the same with social security and food stamps. If you trick the population into thinking needing assistance aligns you with a fictional bad person, then you don’t have to assist as many people.
The ADA states,
"Discrimination includes:... a failure to make reasonable modifications in policies, practices, or procedures, when such modifications are necessary to afford such goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations to individuals with disabilities, unless the entity can demonstrate that making such modifications would fundamentally alter the nature of such goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, or accommodations"
They know your disability. What they’re doing is against the ADA.
Why do you need a 2nd appointment. Just drop it off at the office and send your Dr. a message that your a$$hole employer needs this filled out too.
You will still be denied even after having your doctor fill out the second form. They will tell you they have to accommodate you in the office. Example: sit you close to the exit door of your building, handicap parking, etc. it’s total BS.
Just do and stop whining about it
The reason is that too many people abused the system. Unfortunately, the real accommodations folks have to suffer through the scrutiny.
You should be able to have your Dr office fill out the form without making another appointment though.