Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Boomers

The people who run these companies are old out of touch boomers. We’ve seen disaster after disaster after disaster lately if we look at other cases…Dell, Ubisoft, Boeing (big one there), they’re losing the plot and all trying to adapt to a new work paradigm and market.

When the economy changes drastically it’s the old MBA legacy companies with no creatives or engineers at the top that falter first.

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Post ID: @OP+1uPHYIPR

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chicken/egg. did boomers sp--k too much or not enough? not enough

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Post ID: @4lop+1uPHYIPR

Ts whole business model is outdated. Its 1980s Jack Welch playbook which didnt end up so great for GE.

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Post ID: @3hog+1uPHYIPR

the only boomer that needs to go is Stankey and his minions.

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Post ID: @2zwf+1uPHYIPR

How long do you want to gamble between employee-sponsored and Social Security

CORRECTION: my bad--Medicare, not SS.

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Post ID: @2vzv+1uPHYIPR

I’m in my 40’s and I’m out as soon as my kids leave the house.

It's all about healthcare. How long do you want to gamble between employee-sponsored and Social Security if you're the primary earner? COBRA is suuuuper expensice. Not everyone has a working spouse (or a spouse period) and doesn't have some great backup plan like they served in the military and can use that healthcare. I know plenty of people who played the odds and lost--one horrible diagnosis and they were ruined financially by 60.

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Post ID: @2vgp+1uPHYIPR

I would agree lots of folks that should have retired a decade or more ago are still around. People used to retire at 55, but 401k and SSI rules prohibit that these days. It is interesting how Gen X folks are retiring in their 50s though. Went to a retirement party recently for a coworker that was 57 and retiring, everyone else on the team at the party with a few exceptions were in their mid 60s and not retiring. I’m in my 40’s and I’m out as soon as my kids leave the house.

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Post ID: @2ooc+1uPHYIPR

Agile has always been about pushing out junk as fast as possible. Period end of story. Then spending cycles fixing it post release. It’s not a one size fits all. Fine for some code changes or website stuff, where it’s not critical. Not ok for actual products.

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Post ID: @2rab+1uPHYIPR

Problem is, the "boomers" (and probably a lot of Gen X) haven't been able to leave because millennials and now Gen Z don't stay in a position long enough to learn it or take it over well. When they do stay a hot minute, they complain about old people who then get laid off to make room and salary cap room for the young people who end up leaving in less than 2 years anyway.

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Post ID: @2tol+1uPHYIPR

When's the last time Stankey did anything to shake up the industry?

You're kidding, right?

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Post ID: @2gtv+1uPHYIPR

"The people who run these companies are old out of touch boomers"

Educated and Experienced? That's your complaint?

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Post ID: @2eps+1uPHYIPR

One - all old people are not boomers . (Boomers 1946 – 1954 70 – 78) - so most if not all boomers are retired.
Two- In the past companies were lead by people understand the product- not. In the past Network engineers ran the company. MBA focus on the money not the product.

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Post ID: @2jar+1uPHYIPR
So sick of hearing all these generational labels.

Let's be real though, age is the problem here. It takes a special kind of person to be old and not be stubborn as fu-k when it comes to change.

AT&T has an old people running the company problem. When's the last time Stankey did anything to shake up the industry? I bet you most of our customers don't even know who he is.

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Post ID: @1ffl+1uPHYIPR

So sick of hearing all these generational labels. Seriously you cannot lump people into categories by age as if we are all robots based on when we were built and how much battery level we have left. This is just one more divisive situation. We use the word inclusive but we limit who is included. Why is there so much hate on this site for age differences.

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Post ID: @1zzp+1uPHYIPR

DEI workers work much harder. Compensates for the other lazy workers.

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Post ID: @gtg+1uPHYIPR

Not sure Boeing is the best example. Boomers work hard and take pride in their work, including quality. Boeing planes are built by people who obviously cut corners and are piloted by DEI hires

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Post ID: @nkl+1uPHYIPR

Explain you position:

When the economy changes drastically it’s the old MBA legacy companies with no creatives or engineers at the top that falter first.

1: Explain the MBA legacies with no creatives or engineers?

Does Agile work in software development? That is the 64 dollar question!

Naperville Illinois - Lucent 5ESS software went through stringent quality control and you could bank on switch stability. Not now.

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Post ID: @kwf+1uPHYIPR

Boeing's problems began when they replaced all the board members with aviation experience with accountants. A few boomer aviators and aero engineers on the board would have prevented a lot of problems.

Randall was on the board when the Max was in the design stage. They decided it was cheaper to simply stretch a 40 year old design than to start from scratch.

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