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Legality of office presence tracking?

Hey everyone, with the recent talk of RTO tracking, I’ve been wondering how they’re tracking this and if it’s legal. I just have some questions, and was wondering if anyone knew the answers to them and could specifically reference resources in HR one stop in their answer? Here are a few things I’ve found that might be worth thinking about:

  1. Are We Being Notified About Monitoring?

In most states, employers must notify employees if they’re being tracked—whether through Wi-Fi logs, VPN connections, or badge systems. If that’s happening, we should be clearly informed about it.

Question: Have any of you seen any specific notice from HR or IT about how this is being tracked?

  1. Privacy Laws Vary by State

In places like California, Connecticut, and others, privacy laws are stricter. They require consent or notification for any kind of monitoring. But even across the U.S., under laws like the Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA), we have the right to know if we’re being monitored.

Question: Does anyone feel like this tracking is being done without proper transparency?

  1. What Happens If Privacy Is Violated?

In states with strong privacy laws, employees can report potential privacy violations or even take legal action if monitoring is done without proper notice or consent.

Question: Do we know if our state has clear guidelines, and should we ask for more transparency on how we’re being tracked?

Just curious to hear what others think. I feel like we should know how and why we’re being tracked, especially since privacy laws vary a lot across the U.S.

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Post ID: @OP+1uSFJevj

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“They are not tracking your "location" just whether or not you are at an AT&T campus or on an AT&T network vs VPN.”

This is a false statement. I SAID search on workplace intelligence.
They ARE tracking movement of employees under the guise of building utilization. They are also tracking your lack of movement with overhead sensors. Just read the damn thing.

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Post ID: @2zqh+1uSFJevj

sorry you put so much time and effort into this, its not only legal, but if you logged into personal email and social media from your work pc, they can use your login info to get in and peruse them without you knowing. feel free to try suing, but this is outlined in college business law text books with 100's of examples of how you will lose unfortunately.

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Post ID: @2jrs+1uSFJevj

Don’t worry they are not competent enough to track most of that reliably. They can see card swipes. Anything else requires they both spend money and hire competent IT people. They are not going to do either of those things.

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Post ID: @2ldc+1uSFJevj

As many have already pointed out, it’s not illegal to track days in office, but hours is another story. As a salaried employee you do not have “set hours” so that could lead to legal repercussions if your boss tells you that you need to spend x amount of hours in the office.

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Post ID: @2xbp+1uSFJevj

You are mixing two different types of tracking, GPS and video surveillance is what is covered in the laws. Nothing is stated about knowing when you walk into or leave a building or when you log into a computer. They are not tracking your "location" just whether or not you are at an AT&T campus or on an AT&T network vs VPN. I would focus on just trying to do your job as asked or just move on to another company.

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Post ID: @2ldy+1uSFJevj
“Yeah the policy clearly doesn’t specify time in office. I suspect they’re just going to force 5 days instead of actually defining what they consider a day in office for salary employees.”

Then I coffee badge 5 times a week.

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Post ID: @1jhs+1uSFJevj

“If you are a salaried employee I would ask to see the policy regarding “hours required “ in office.”

Yeah the policy clearly doesn’t specify time in office. I suspect they’re just going to force 5 days instead of actually defining what they consider a day in office for salary employees.

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Post ID: @1tvd+1uSFJevj

If you are a salaried employee I would ask to see the policy regarding “hours required “ in office.

Or simply ANY official attendance policy.

They can’t provide that. They can’t explain how the RTO (How and Where We Work) measures your efforts over the weekend.

As a salaried employee they don’t want to hear “I’m sorry but I am only allowed to work during some arbitrary time frame”

As soon as they start throwing “hours” at a salaried employee they open themselves up to OT laws.

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Post ID: @1zeo+1uSFJevj

Use a mouse jiggler.

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Post ID: @1dse+1uSFJevj

I can see you taking a dump in the second stall right now. You’ve been in there for 20 minutes and the built in toilet seat scale indicates you haven’t pooped yet.

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Post ID: @1qtd+1uSFJevj

Of course it is legal. Maybe we need to put a foot monitor on you. Would that be better for you?

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Post ID: @1tdk+1uSFJevj

GTFOH!

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Post ID: @1udu+1uSFJevj

It is legal. At most they just need to notify you that they are doing it.

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Post ID: @1ebc+1uSFJevj

Why is this even a question? As long as they're not spying on you in the bathroom when you're in the office or on your computer you are subject to monitoring.

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Post ID: @1ohk+1uSFJevj

OP,
yes you can reference workplace monitoring at hronestop. search for workplace intelligence.
The intent is ai behavior sensors and overhead sensors to better understand if meaningful collaboration is occurring, and if so, when and where.
This is supplemented with lan device connectivity and telemetry data from your laptop. (if idle, where are you? are you in a conference room? at your desk? is someone else with you?). They will leverage heat maps and supposedly aggregate data that is anonymous.

I wouldn’t trust them as the custodians of data or anything else at this point.

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Post ID: @1yfm+1uSFJevj

“Not sure about company monitoring, but someone in my hub office filed a complaint against another employee for harassing them about their working hours due to RTO. That person was in a different org and thought the other should work the same hours or days.”

This should be happening more often! Local team members need to be holding each other more accountable.

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Post ID: @1fjb+1uSFJevj

Of all the legal issues surrounding RTO, this one in a non-starter. Are you an AT&T Employee? Probably not, otherwise you would have noticed the banner on the VPN and everything else you log into that says it's subject to monitoring. If you have legal questions, consult an Attorney, not clowns in a internet chat room. Best of luck to you!

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Post ID: @1qif+1uSFJevj

Not sure about company monitoring, but someone in my hub office filed a complaint against another employee for harassing them about their working hours due to RTO. That person was in a different org and thought the other should work the same hours or days. They kept it up every day spouting off about it to the employee. Don’t know whatever happened but haven’t seen the complainer around lately.

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Post ID: @gop+1uSFJevj

The phone and tv business is needing less human support. No home phones and free long distance with apps. People cutting cords daily. Internet has many options. Quit bi--hing. If you are working hard to hold on as long as you can, the AI robots will allow you more time

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Post ID: @qps+1uSFJevj

"You didn't show up to work yesterday. You never logged into your computer or badged in the building. I'm suspending you for a day." Boss

"That's illegal for you to track me." Me

You think it will work?

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Post ID: @qzm+1uSFJevj

1- which states ?
2 &3- yeah I’m sure the AT&T legal department overlooked those

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Post ID: @ppm+1uSFJevj

What are you doing that monitoring would be an issue?

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Post ID: @crc+1uSFJevj

Do an internal search on Workplace Intelligence.
The intent is to use AI behavior sensors, overhead sensors, entryway sensors, network connectivity and device feeds to determine everything they need to know.

The data is supposed to be used as anonymized aggregate data of the employees to determine if you are making meaningful connections in the workplace. (if your laptop is idle, where are you spending your time and what are you doing).

This should work out just fine for everyone involved. (what a sh-t show).

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Post ID: @vhw+1uSFJevj

The end fully justifies the means. 'Nuff said.

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Post ID: @vie+1uSFJevj

You can go read how the presence reporting works on HR one stop right now.

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Post ID: @haa+1uSFJevj

Every keystroke is traceable on a company computer. Tracking is common via GPS on Ipads and vehicle. All company property belongs to T and they have a right to monitor/track.

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