Can ELT be sued if one can prove (with evidence) that this month of wait caused them healthy issues?!
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The way they handled the layoffs emotionally, combined with their decision-making process on who stays and who goes, might give employees grounds to challenge them in court.
What grounds? Cisco, headquartered in CA, is an "At Will" hiring company. NC is also an "At Will" state. That means that the employer, Cisco, or the employee, you, can terminate the employment at any time, for any reason, as long as it's not one of the protected discrimination laws. Given that Cisco pays its team of in-house lawyers to review the impacted lists for age, gender, race/nationality, etc., you're not going to have any grounds to sue.
- Does it su-k to be LR'd? Yes.
- Has Cisco done it both with advanced notice and without advanced notice? Yes
- Did people complain about not getting notice when there was no notice and say it was cruel? Yes
- Did people complain about getting a month's notice and "having this 'axe' hanging over your head?" Yes.
Su-k it up, snowflake. At least Cisco is giving you 6 months of severance if you sign, and you're stupid not to sign. Look at what X/Twitter did to its employees when Musk bought it. Look at what's happening at Dell. Look at what IBM did over the last 20 yrs.
You are an id--t
Call the EAP and get some counseling. It’s free
An individual cannot successfully sue a behemoth like Cisco. It would be like an ant trying to fight with Godzilla.
Dont be an id--t
https://portal.scscourt.org/search/business?businessName=Cisco
I keep starring at this link and wonder if I should go for it
There is a reason why they pay you a salary not to lawyer up
And to the other guy who was asking about a class action lawsuit or a collective doing this: doing it individually will be like a DOS attack they will need to hire more lawyers than they want to
An individual cannot successfully sue a behemoth like Cisco. It would be like an ant trying to fight with Godzilla.
$300 per hour? I was paying $500 ten years ago. Maybe to get documents photocopied you’d pay that.
If you want to sue, first write your attorney a $50,000 cheque, because that’s what he/she will ask for at your first “free” consultation. Are you ready to lose it all in a flash?
Why bother suing, just take your knowledge to the competitor(s) and help them! Others have done it which is why our sales are dropping and they're "cooking" the books!
In the US you can sue anyone for anything pretty much. That being said, it doesn't mean it’ll get far before it’s discarded. It will have 5 minutes in court, but will it be dismissed? Probably.
Legal fees are incredibly expensive, think $300/hour or more on both sides with at least 50+ hours of work involved; let's say $30,000. If you don't make a good enough case, you'll probably owe them attorney fees along with your own. Unless you're a VP or above, you likely don't have an employment "contract" in the strictest of senses and aren't very protected except by state law, which can vary from one to another of course.
Are you a protected class? Are they terminating your class (gender, s-x, s-xual orientation, race, etc) at a different rate than others and in a negative direction?
If the claim is simply emotional distress, what have they done to abuse you? Does it rise to the level of abuse? What is your evidence? If the evidence is simply a testimony of a therapist or psychologist, I’m afraid this is insufficient as they will be permitted to cross-reference with their own psychologist; that’s a game the courts know well and you aren’t going to win it. If the emotional distress isn’t abuse, which I don’t see how it could be, that’s allowed. People are allowed to inflict some degree of distress on others; you can offend others.
I don’t see how you’re going to make a case for this and come out anywhere positive. Not to mention, court trials are extremely taxing emotionally and the fact you would be willing to go through a case concerning emotional distress wouldn’t look positive by itself.
You shouldn’t be placing this question or such evidence here, even anonymously. Going public with any information without using the right channels is not good optics for you. You need to work through legal channels and follow the direction of a bar certified attorney.
Most attorneys will provide a 1 hour free consultation where they can discuss fees and get a sense of the case. Contact an employment attorney in your area and discuss this with them. If they aren’t willing to take the case on contingency, that alone will tell you the status of your case. Given the information provided, I wouldn’t anticipate a recommendation to move forward with a case. Cisco is a large Corporation with an extensive legal department and, even more, contracted legal departments. This has gone through them from beginning to end and I’m sure laws and compliance requirements are being followed.
Tell me you’re an American without telling me you are.
You mean during a month where you are still getting your full salary and extra time to prepare for what might happen and don't even know if you're one of the 93% that won't be laid off this round?
It wasn't that long ago when people were complaining here that they didn't get enough notice.
Go on. Give it a go and report back. You'd be laughed out of court so hard even the two employees left in RTP will be able to hear you from the courthouse.
Yes, they can be healthy chop-sueyed.
The way they handled the layoffs emotionally, combined with their decision-making process on who stays and who goes, might give employees grounds to challenge them in court. However, unless there's a class action, I don't anticipate many individuals seeking legal counsel.
HEALTHY? Yes please go ahead :) !!
Why sue if they made you healthy?